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If it were me, here's what I'd do.  But it won't happen, so what's the difference.

 

1.  Sign Nomar and get this SS thing over with, and make the big PR splash.

 

2.  Sign a good sinker ball starter like Leiber.  Clement would be ok too.

 

3.  Forget about the Randy Johnson stuff and put the assets into getting Kendall.

 

4.  Add an arm to the bullpen, either by trade, non tender, whatever.  If they like this guy Chacon and think they can get him productive, trade a middle level prospect and get it done.

 

5.  Sit back and wait for the non tenders to see if you can get another guy for the OF.  Preferably a guy who can play CF and slide Rowand to RF.  Everett is your insurance policy in case Frank isn't healthy and gives the corner outfielders a break a few times a week.

 

It adds payroll and that's why it won't happen.  But it sure would solve problems.

because of the Sox financial ways and their park, I think it's important for them to take advantage of Garciaparra, Dye type players. Guys who are talented, but because of injuries, won't get a long-term deal so will likely sign a one-year deal and cash in the next year. Why do the Sox do this?

 

#1 - One-year deal means no committment

 

#2 - An offensive player would love to come here and pad their stats in the Cell.

 

#3 - Looking for a big contract you know these guys are going to stay healthy and bust their ass ... so you get the production out them and let them walk the next season.

 

this only works on offense. for pitchers, look for the best and sign them long-term.

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I don't recall saying Harris was the answer.......

 

I do recall the White Sox acquiring Alomar because they were in the playoff race and wanted a veteran like Alomar. That doesn't mean we got Alomar because Harris is bad, but because Alomar is better. Harris isn't great, and probably will never be great. And if you have a chance to have someone at second who is more proven, even if it is someone like Uribe, then you do it, BUT that doesn't mean Harris sucks.

 

BTW, Harris didn't play everyday in 2003. And when he did, he spent much of it in CF, a new position to him. I think it's unfair to tell someone to play not just a new position, but a tough position, and expect that player to just reach his potential on offense as well.

I know all about Harris playing CF.. I had Season tickets in Right Center, becuase I thoght A-row would finally be able to show the Sox nation how good I knew he was.

 

You don't give any other player to play 2b, so I would go that you think that Harriss is the answer to our 2b

 

I'm confused on your Robby/Harris comment.. it makes no sense

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I know all about Harris playing CF.. I had Season tickets in Right Center, becuase I thoght A-row would finally be able to show the Sox nation how good I knew he was.

 

You don't give any other player to play 2b, so I would go that you think that Harriss is the answer to our 2b

 

I'm confused on your Robby/Harris comment.. it makes no sense

it's actually quite simple. If there are two players, and one is better than the other, it doesn't mean the other sucks, he just isn't as good as the other.

 

Last season Roberto Alomar was a better and more proven player over Harris. That doesn't mean Harris sucks, that means Alomar is better.

 

If you have a chance to get a second baseman who is more proven and better than Harris, do so, but don't do so in a desperate manner, with the belief that Harris is no capable of producing. I don't know what's hard to understand.

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I don't know what's hard to understand.

 

mayeb you should ask yourself that question.. If you as a GM think your players are good you don't go and trade for a player at the same postion now do you? I mean Steve Finley was out there last year I didn't see us go after him.. Why you ask, its very simple Aarron Rowand was producing, something in the 2 years Harris stiil has not done while on the big league club. And he never will, they handed the job of 2b to him 2 times.. only for him to prove that he is not worthy of it..

 

I don't see what so hard to understand about that?

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mayeb you should ask yourself that question.. If you as a GM think your players are good you don't go and trade for a player at the same postion now do you?  I mean Steve Finley was out there last year I didn't see us go after him.. Why you ask, its very simple Aarron Rowand was producing, something in the 2 years Harris stiil has not done while on the big league club. And he never will, they handed the job of 2b to him 2 times.. only for him to prove that he is not worthy of it..

 

I don't see what so hard to understand about that?

I think it has everything to do with a willingness to upgrade.

 

My belief on Sox managements viewpoint on Harris ... they think he's serviceable, with an upside still. They also think he does some things very well defensively, but they're disappointed he didn't progress further with the mental aspects of the game.

 

They think he's ok, and are willing to give him another chance but they are also willing to upgrade if the right situation comes along.

 

They felt they had the perfect situation in Vizquel, with Uribe playing a lot at 2B.

 

Oops, that didn't work. So now, they're backpeddling and saying all the politically correct things about Harris, and Uribe for that matter.

 

My understanding BTW is the Sox did at least inquire about Finley near the deadline but it never got serious. Finley wanted to stay on the west coast, at least at that point in time he did.

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mayeb you should ask yourself that question.. If you as a GM think your players are good you don't go and trade for a player at the same postion now do you?  I mean Steve Finley was out there last year I didn't see us go after him.. Why you ask, its very simple Aarron Rowand was producing, something in the 2 years Harris stiil has not done while on the big league club. And he never will, they handed the job of 2b to him 2 times.. only for him to prove that he is not worthy of it..

 

I don't see what so hard to understand about that?

umm, baseball isn't PS2 ... you aren't making trades with a computer...

 

I never said Harris is good. Last year, the Sox were in a playoff run and wanted a veteran like Alomar, so they got him. That doesn't mean Harris isn't good, it just means that they were in a playoff run and wanted experience ... I think it's clear Harris didn't have experience and still has question marks in his game.

 

as JimH said, Harris is servicable. If he starts at second, fine, but if you have the chance to get a better player or land a player who will bring more to the table DOWN THE STRETCH RUN, you do it. BUT, that doesn't mean Harris is useless and you need to do whatever it takes to replace him. finding a 2B and SS isn't very important. would it be nice? of course, but it shouldn't be a top priority ... adding a starter and reliever should.

 

and they handed him the job twice? when you give a player a starting job, you should actually give it to him and see what he can do with it over a long period of time ... the Sox didn't.

 

the point is, just because a player has talent, doesn't mean he's an automatic producer and just because a guy struggles in limited playing time doesn't mean he's terrible.

 

Sometimes, as a GM, you have to put together a team, see where the team goes and then make moves midway through the season to help put you over the top. that is what happened with Alomar.

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mayeb you should ask yourself that question.. If you as a GM think your players are good you don't go and trade for a player at the same postion now do you?  I mean Steve Finley was out there last year I didn't see us go after him.. Why you ask, its very simple Aarron Rowand was producing, something in the 2 years Harris stiil has not done while on the big league club. And he never will, they handed the job of 2b to him 2 times.. only for him to prove that he is not worthy of it..

 

I don't see what so hard to understand about that?

Um, ya, we would have went after finley. But there was a slight problem. He did not want to come to chicago, he wanted to stay on the west coast.

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Um, ya, we would have went after finley. But there was a slight problem. He did not want to come to chicago, he wanted to stay on the west coast.

Thats not the point the point is, you don't trade for players when you have players there that are doing their job...

 

Aaron does his job and does it very well..

 

Willie does not do his job, so we traded for Alomar..

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Thats not the point the point is, you don't trade for players when you have players there that are doing their job...

 

Aaron does his job and does it very well..

 

Willie does not do his job, so we traded for Alomar..

Does not matter we needed an outfielder period. Why do you think we got everett once more? For the hell of it?

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Yes, everett. You are not understanding something apparently.

 

 

Have you watch Carla play CF???? I think sticking a tackling dummy out there would give the Sox more range in CF than Carla.

 

I don't understand how you people are missing the fa-king point here, HARRIS AND URIBE ARE NOT THE ANSWER TO our middle INF...

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Everett was acquired (the 2nd time) to be the DH replacement for Frank.

 

But just because the Sox didn't make a trade for an OF doesn't mean they didn't try, or aren't trying.

 

They're always looking to upgrade.

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Everett was acquired (the 2nd time) to be the DH replacement for Frank.

 

But just because the Sox didn't make a trade for an OF doesn't mean they didn't try, or aren't trying.

 

They're always looking to upgrade.

I know this, but he asked me if they traded for a center fielder or a left fielder and technically they did.

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