HuskyCaucasian Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 I want to look at the Pacer brawl from a differant angle. WHo gets suspended and fro how long? If I remember right, Rodman got 11 games for kicking a camerman. Isnt this like 3 times worse than that. Granted Rodman was unprovoked, but still. Players went into the stands and assulted fans. SOmeone has to be suspended for at least 20 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 We can start with Ben Wallace for being a b****. I guarantee if the Pistons were up by 15 and not down 15, none of this would have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 I would say Jackson, Artest 20 games. O'Neal 15 games. Ben Wallace 15 games for intiating the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 This isn't what I think should happen, but what I think will happen... Artest-15 games O' Neal-12 games Jackson-12 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Sprewell was suspended for the rest of the season... I think Artest and Jackson could both have their season's in jeopardy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted November 20, 2004 Author Share Posted November 20, 2004 I would say Jackson, Artest 20 games. O'Neal 15 games. Ben Wallace 15 games for intiating the whole thing. I agree with Artest and Jackson. THey will be gone for a very long time. Remember, Artest not only took out the guy in the stands, he also punched out a few fans on the court. As for Wallace, I dont think 15. Maybe 5. It had pretty much calmed down when Artest went nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 This isn't what I think should happen, but what I think will happen... Artest-15 games O' Neal-12 games Jackson-12 games Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted November 20, 2004 Author Share Posted November 20, 2004 Sprewell was suspended for the rest of the season... I think Artest and Jackson could both have their season's in jeopardy. Good point! I forgot about the Spreewell suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Not even close. Sorry, I didn't know you were commisioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Yep but Wallace initiated it for no reason. Artest's foul wasn't even that bad, Ben continually tried to fight Artest, while Artest just layed down on the side. Also everyone watch what the Players Association does, they could have some fans arrested tomororow, will be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted November 20, 2004 Author Share Posted November 20, 2004 Also everyone watch what the Players Association does, they could have some fans arrested tomororow, will be interesting. Oh I dont think the PA will do that. THe police will be doing most of that on their own. THey are already reviewing tapes of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Jackson better have a good lawyer, that's all I can say... He can't even argue at all that he was provoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Jackson better have a good lawyer, that's all I can say... He can't even argue at all that he was provoked. Same thing goes for JO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 The PA is pissed about this, they will enforce their presence on all of this. I think they will push the issues with the fans further than most think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaSoxFan Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 I wouldn't be suprised if the NBA bans those three for at least 30+ games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted November 20, 2004 Author Share Posted November 20, 2004 Jackson better have a good lawyer, that's all I can say... He can't even argue at all that he was provoked. It was no longer self-defense what he did. He just went in and took people out. If he was truely trying to defent Artest, we would have tried to break up the fight and get people to back off, not come in fists-a-blazin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Kermit Washinton got a 60-day suspension for sucker punching Rudy T. and breaking his jaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Stephen Jackson will definetely get the longest one by trying to start a fight w/ a player on the court and vicously hitting a fan right in the face-I'd say 15. Artest will get 3-5.....He got away from the feud on the court and was only brought back in when a fan threw a water bottle at him. Wallace will get 2-4......He instigated all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 It was no longer self-defense what he did. He just went in and took people out. If he was truely trying to defent Artest, we would have tried to break up the fight and get people to back off, not come in fists-a-blazin. EXACTLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Ron Artest is a psychopath. I said this a week ago and I stand by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Kermit Washinton got a 60-day suspension for sucker punching Rudy T. and breaking his jaw. I heard that he broke his entire face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssHatSoxFan Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 I heard that he broke his entire face. that had to have been the worst punch i have seen someone take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssHatSoxFan Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 In a moment of sheer instinct, Washington turned and crushed Tomjanovich with a vicious right hand that Lakers assistant coach Jack McCloskey called "the hardest punch in the history of mankind." Tomjanovich suffered fractures of the face and skull. His nose was broken, and he suffered a separated upper jaw, a concussion and lacerations around his mouth. He was leaking spinal fluid into his nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 If anyone has seen the clip of Argentina basketball where the player sucker punches the ref about half his size, that is probably the hardest punch I have ever seen. The ref I believe lost sight in one eye and had to retire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 I hate to see all of this, but I can't sugar coat the way I think. I hate the NBA for this type of thing. The NBA is a thug league and they market it that way. Incidents like these are why 75% of American could give a s*** less about their game. If you live outside an NBA city or outside of an urban area, then the NBA is about as meaningless as hockey. The only team I even halfway follow is the Pacers and that is because I used to think they were above all of that. Obviously, the makeup of their team has changed in the past few years, very much so for the worse. The problem is, the NBA is so pigeonholed as an urban game, it will be hard for them to clean it up, without losing the fans they have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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