WHarris1 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 He did completely lay out a fan. Was in the crowd too. The fan was on the court. When you go on the court, you are fair game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 The Pacers actually played only 7 guys tonight. Apparently they might have to activate some injured players because it is a rule that they have to dress 8 players. Actually only 6 guys.... Tinsley and Pollard had to dress, though they were hurt. Reggie even offered to come off the IR, but Carlisle didn't want Reggie to risk making his injury worse. EDDIE GILL 48 FRED JONES 48 JAMES JONES 43 AUSTIN CROSHERE 42 DAVID HARRISON 44 John Edwards 15 Starters in caps, and those are their minutes tonight. The guys showed some major heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 He did completely lay out a fan. Was in the crowd too. No, the crowd came to him. JO was on the court the whole time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 No, the crowd came to him. JO was on the court the whole time. One hell of a sucker punch that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 ESPN did a poll concerning length of suspensions of the players involved. In each case, 10 games or more was leading. That's B.S. I was also amazed that 80 percent of respondents rated this the worst fan-player incident they have ever seen. I expected it to lead since it just happened but 80%? Why are you surprised by this??? What else comes CLOSE to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 One hell of a sucker punch that was. A sucker punch was the one on Freddie Jones who was merely trying to break up the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 A sucker punch was the one on Freddie Jones who was merely trying to break up the fight. That's actually called getting malled by a hippo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 That's actually called getting malled by a hippo. LOL, great quote Wharris1! That had me rolling, I normally don't laugh out loud at things posted, but that one got me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Why are you surprised by this??? What else comes CLOSE to this? There was a hockey fight a while back at Madison Square Garden when a bunch of Bruins charged up into the stands and started attacking people. I wouldn't expect that one to take votes, but considering the Gamboa incident, the chair throwing incident with the Rangers, and the Yanks/Red Sox fight, and numerous other incidents with fans throwing bottles/batteries/whatever, I figured that is would get more like 60, not the overwhelming majority. Also, anytime you have an open-ended question like that you never know what incident on what level of play someone is going to bring in. This is even wierder considering the next question gave a choice between the Gamboa attack, the Rangers, and this and it was a lower percentage. It's not even the first time an NBA player has charged into the stands and punched somebody. They make it sound like it's the first time anything like this has ever happened. Yeah, the scale was bigger than we are used to, but jackass fans and player retaliations are nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I'm surprised nobody mentioned when Ty Domi and the fan fought in the penalty box in, IIRC, Philly. Seeing that Pacer/Piston fight on TV after consuming multiple Jagerbombs -- I turned to my friend Dann and said "Artest is really serious about wanting that time off to promote his rap album, huh?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1927560 Here are some more examples of sports brawling through the years where the fans were involved. Not surprised to see the Flubbs make the cut a number of times but I am surprised the Sox didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue129 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Not 100% confirmed, but internet reports are saying: Wallace: 5 games Jackson and O'Neal: 20 games Artest: 30 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Not 100% confirmed, but internet reports are saying: Wallace: 5 games Jackson and O'Neal: 20 games Artest: 30 games Wow that's a f***ing joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 MSNBC reporting the same thing. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6549074/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 If that's the truth I'm gonna go ballistic. That's is complete BS. Will someone explain to me what JO did to deserve a suspension? Also I may be wrong...but didn't Ben Wallce start the whole damn thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 JO is getting the shaft in this, and Wallace is getting a huge break.... However, all Indiana has to do is make the playoffs. I'm not too worried about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue129 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Also I may be wrong...but didn't Ben Wallce start the whole damn thing? Ben Wallace started the on court fight. He didn't go into the stands. You could say that if it wasn't for him Artest wouldn't have gone into the stands, but I doubt the league is going to give Artest that benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Ben Wallace started the on court fight. He didn't go into the stands. You could say that if it wasn't for him Artest wouldn't have gone into the stands, but I doubt the league is going to give Artest that benefit. If Ben Wallace doesn't over react like a stupid b**** nothing, and I mean nothing ever ever ever ever happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 If Ben Wallace doesn't over react like a stupid b**** nothing, and I mean nothing ever ever ever ever happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I almost think it would be funny, not for Pacers fans, if Ron Artest was just like, "f*** it, I don't need the NBA. Screw you all, your league is a joke." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Ben Wallace didn't attack any fans. O'Neal did the slide-punch on that fat guy, and kept fighting afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 O'Neal did the slide-punch on that fat guy, and kept fighting afterward. The guy was on the f***ing court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Ben Wallace didn't attack any fans. O'Neal did the slide-punch on that fat guy, and kept fighting afterward. If you're on the court, you're asking for it. That no question right there is self-defense. What do you think the fan's intentions were, if he was on the court? To get to the other side? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue129 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 If Ben Wallace doesn't over react like a stupid b**** nothing, and I mean nothing ever ever ever ever happens. Regardless, Artest shouldn't have entered the stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 If you're on the court, you're asking for it. That no question right there is self-defense. What do you think the fan's intentions were, if he was on the court? To get to the other side? I don't think so. No, I don't think you understand what self-defense is. That guy was nowhere near O'Neal and he just came flying at him. Being on the court doesn't give the players free reign to go ballistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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