Rowand44 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 to nick "I going on my 3rd team cause Joe B hits better than me" johnson? Hmm.... Nick Johnson career obp .372, career ops .757. Orlando Cabrera's career obp .316, career ops .725. So it looks like Nick Johnson is a better hitter then your boyfriend doesn't it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 Hey ANthrax, just for your information, N. Johnson was riddled with injurys all last year. Perhaps, by some strange means of logic, this affected his swing. New concept, yes, I know. Maybe with some good conditioning and workouts during the offseason he'll be 100% by Spring Training. Who is Jay Gibbons? Alex? You are Correct pick again I will take Players that will Help the Sox in 05 for 400 The Answer is played SS for the World series Champs Boston Red Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Who is Jay Gibbons? Alex? You are Correct pick again I will take Players that will Help the Sox in 05 for 400 The Answer is played SS for the World series Champs Boston Red Sox. does this even make sense? Looks like a bunch of jibberish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Ohh boy, I'm going to have some fun in this thread. Orlando Cabrera ($6,000,000) - 264, 10 HR, 62 RBI's, 39 BB's, 54 K's. AUGUST - .278, 3 HR, 14 RBI's, 5 BB's, 14 K's, .303 OBP SEPTEMBER - .304, 2 HR, 13 RBI's, 5 BB's, 9 K's, .327 OBP. GRASS - .264, 7 HR, 41 RBI's, 24 BB's, 37 RBI's, .308 OBP. HITTING #2 - .273, 1 HR, 9 RBI's, 9 BB's, 10 K's, .324 OBP. HITTING #6 - .325, 3 HR, 18 RBI's, 10 BB's, 19 K's, .359 OBP. Another guy who was once underrated is Cabrera, although his losing that status is not because of any skill deterioration, but rather that he got a chance to play for the Red Sox during their World Series run. After a few solid offensive seasons in Montreal, Cabrera got off to a very slow start this year, hitting just .246/.298/.336 in 103 games with the Expos, before being traded to Boston. Once with the Red Sox, he got back on track, hitting .294/.320/.465 down the stretch. His overall numbers were not particularly good -- .264/.306/.383 with 10 homers and 38 doubles in 161 games -- but he came fairly close to matching his career averages of .268/.316/.409. At 30, Cabrera is a couple years older than I thought he was and he hit .275/.325/.409 over the last three years, so he's not a guy who's likely to break out in a big way. However, with his defense and baserunning (65-for-78 stealing bases during that stretch), Cabrera can be a valuable player if he can simply repeat that .275/.325/.409 for the next few years. In a lot of years, I suspect Cabrera would be in line for a very nice contract, but he is probably hurt more than anyone by the depth of the free agent shortstop class this offseason. Nick Johnson ($1,250,000) - .251, 7 HR, 33 RBI's, 40 BB's, 58 K's, .359 OBP in 73 games. Hitting Johnson is one of the most patient hitters in the league. This had gotten him into trouble at times during his rookie campaign, when pitchers came right at him and often put him behind in the count. But the balance shifted last year as he began to earn greater respect. Not a classic power hitter by any stretch, he hits a lot of line drives and will use the whole field. He may mature into a .300 hitter, or he may develop into a consistent 25-homer guy, but even if he does neither, he'll remain a fine-if somewhat unconventional-No. 2 hitter because of his ability to get on base. Jeromy Burnitz ($1,250,000) - .283, 37 HR, 110 RBI's, 28 BB's, 124 K's, .356 OBP. HOME - .322, 24 HR, 68 RBI's, 29 BB's, 57 K's, .386 OBP. AWAY - .244, 13 HR, 42 RBI's, 29 BB's, 67 K's, .327 OBP. Jay Gibbons ($3,000,000) - .246, 10 HR, 47 RBI's, 29 BB's, 64 K's, .303 OBP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Who is Jay Gibbons? Alex? You are Correct pick again I will take Players that will Help the Sox in 05 for 400 The Answer is played SS for the World series Champs Boston Red Sox. How would Nick JOhnson NOT help the Sox? He would have a great bench player in Gload remain that, and while I think Gload could start every day and be fine, some don't. Johnson breaks up our righties, provides some pop for losing PK, drives in runs, and posts a better OBP than PK. I could definately live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 This is simply amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Has anyone actually considered the fact Ross Gload could be able to play RF IF we need him to. A platoon of Everett and Gload in RF, wouldn't be the worst scenario to consider, IF the Sox plan on giving Gload enough reps in spring training at RF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 How would Nick JOhnson NOT help the Sox? He would have a great bench player in Gload remain that, and while I think Gload could start every day and be fine, some don't. Johnson breaks up our righties, provides some pop for losing PK, drives in runs, and posts a better OBP than PK. I could definately live with that. That great and all, but how many times in his 4 year Career has he made it through the whole season???? 1 time... WHOPPIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 This is simply amazing. Isn't it! Johnson is by no means the best option, but he is very much so not the worst! At his age, he still has some upside, especially when his value is so low and we could get him for a bag of peanuts. If he sucks, suck it up and send him to AAA and start Gload. It's that easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I finally figured it out, fellas... If you combine Cabrera's and Gibbons' career OPS'/OBP, then you have a better OPS/OBP than Nick Johnson. Ahh, now I got it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 By the way I'd like to add I love Ross and I think he'd can be a very solid starting first basemen but if you can get a player the caliber of Nick Johnson and a guy who can get on base at a .400 clip I think it would be a great pickup, jmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 That great and all, but how many times in his 4 year Career has he made it through the whole season???? 1 time... WHOPPIE Then why are you for acquiring Jay Gibbons then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 That great and all, but how many times in his 4 year Career has he made it through the whole season???? 1 time... WHOPPIE It's not like we would have to trade rowand or lee, or anyone else like them for him. Especially since he trade value is so low right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Then why are you for acquiring Jay Gibbons then? Well done dbaho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I finally figured it out, fellas... If you combine Cabrera's and Gibbons' career OPS'/OBP, then you have a better OPS/OBP than Nick Johnson. Ahh, now I got it... Barely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 That great and all, but how many times in his 4 year Career has he made it through the whole season???? 1 time... WHOPPIE 1) the Yankees got a better 1B in Jason Giambi (then) 2) Year 1 he did not play the full season because he was a September callup (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) 3) Year 2 played 129 Games in the Yankees all star lineup, pretty good for a rookie! 4) Year 3 same thing as in Year 2 5) Year 4 = Injury He'd have more opportunity here than he did in New York. I'd be willing to bet the Yankees are kicking themselves for trading JOhnson period in the situation they're in for First base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 Then why are you for acquiring Jay Gibbons then? One bad season in 04, in 4 seasons compare to one good season in 02 in 4 seasons HMM... Need a map to see the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 That great and all, but how many times in his 4 year Career has he made it through the whole season???? 1 time... WHOPPIE Wow - you're terrible at providing an argument for a player, and you're also a hypocrit. Only ONE time in Jay Gibbons four year career has he posted 500+ AB's. Yet, Nick Johnson, who also seems to have the same injury bug (except in this case, Johnson is better in just about every offensive category) -- is a bad option? This is absolutely pathetic, yet funny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 1) the Yankees got a better 1B in Jason Giambi (then) 2) Year 1 he did not play the full season because he was a September callup (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) 3) Year 2 played 129 Games in the Yankees all star lineup, pretty good for a rookie! 4) Year 3 same thing as in Year 2 5) Year 4 = Injury He'd have more opportunity here than he did in New York. I'd be willing to bet the Yankees are kicking themselves for trading JOhnson period in the situation they're in for First base. Year 1 ...23 games Year 2 .. 129 Year 3.. 96 Year 4.. 73 I think you should retake basic addtion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 One bad season in 04, in 4 seasons compare to one good season in 02 in 4 seasons HMM... Need a map to see the way? He has hit over .250 only once. But i forgot, his .277 average is the same hting as a .300 average right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 One bad season in 04, in 4 seasons compare to one good season in 02 in 4 seasons HMM... Need a map to see the way? One bad season? You mean one 'good' season, right? Highest OBP ever was .330, highest average was .277 (other years, below .250). I'm done for the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Year 1 ...23 games Year 2 .. 129 Year 3.. 96 Year 4.. 73 I think you should retake basic addtion. Didn't I just provide for you the reasons he played that many games!? Maybe you should learn how to comprehend writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Has anyone actually considered the fact Ross Gload could be able to play RF IF we need him to. A platoon of Everett and Gload in RF, wouldn't be the worst scenario to consider, IF the Sox plan on giving Gload enough reps in spring training at RF. I respect your opinion DBHA0, but Gload looked horrendous defensively in RF last year. I think he would cost us way too many outs/runs if he is a platoon player in RF. That is just my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 Wow - you're terrible at providing an argument for a player, and you're also a hypocrit. Only ONE time in Jay Gibbons four year career has he posted 500+ AB's. Yet, Nick Johnson, who also seems to have the same injury bug (except in this case, Johnson is better in just about every offensive category) -- is a bad option? This is absolutely pathetic, yet funny... year 1 73 games Year 2 136 Games Year 3 160 games Year 4 97 games Those are very comparable to johnson Keep trying to sell me the crap you guys have to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 Didn't I just provide for you the reasons he played that many games!? Maybe you should learn how to comprehend writing. So missing almost 1/2 the season in year 3 is comparbale to the 1 whole season in year 2??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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