babybearhater Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I dont know if someone wrote something about this yet, but it looks like the Tigers are going to increase their payroll by 20 mil this year to about 70 million. How is it that they could increase it this much???? Why cant we even pay out that much to our players???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I dont know if someone wrote something about this yet, but it looks like the Tigers are going to increase their payroll by 20 mil this year to about 70 million. How is it that they could increase it this much???? Why cant we even pay out that much to our players???? One big part of that is that they have the city of Detroit to themselves. They don't have to split all of the advertising revenues like Chicago does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 They are also banking profits from the AS game. Their season ticket base is, at least, more than doubling this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Their owner Mike Illitch I believe is willing to spend to get the team back up to .500. Of course with their being no hockey, it'll be interesting to see the attendance figures for this season, since Detroit is mainly a Hockey town. They could sign Troy Glaus or Steve Finley in the next few days possibly, they are going very hard after them both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Well JR will need to increase the payroll to 71 million to justify we have the largest payroll in the AL Central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Their owner Mike Illitch I believe is willing to spend to get the team back up to .500. Of course with their being no hockey, it'll be interesting to see the attendance figures for this season, since Detroit is mainly a Hockey town. They could sign Troy Glaus or Steve Finley in the next few days possibly, they are going very hard after them both. I can't imagine Finley going to the Tigers. He is a West Coast guy. Unless Ilitch totally overpays for a 39 yo outfielder...he'll stay in LA or go to SD or back to AZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I dont know if someone wrote something about this yet, but it looks like the Tigers are going to increase their payroll by 20 mil this year to about 70 million. How is it that they could increase it this much???? Why cant we even pay out that much to our players???? However they do it, it's good thing. The sox haven't had to increase salary, with the other AL central teams in low budget mode. Now with some pressure from Det. the sox will have to keep salaries at a good level above $70 mill] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Well I don't know if this is also a right reason. But I believe the owner of the Tigers does own the Red Wings also. Since the NHL is in a lockout, he has more money to spend on the Tigers since he doesn't need to pay the Red Wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Well I don't know if this is also a right reason. But I believe the owner of the Tigers does own the Red Wings also. Since the NHL is in a lockout, he has more money to spend on the Tigers since he doesn't need to pay the Red Wings. They can't co-mingle the two. The finances must be kept separate. When the Bulls were a cash cow everyone used to scream at JR to use some of that $$ for the Sox and it couldn't be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 They can't co-mingle the two. The finances must be kept separate. When the Bulls were a cash cow everyone used to scream at JR to use some of that $$ for the Sox and it couldn't be done. Well yeah I know that, but if he's not paying any saleries for the Red Wings, why can't he increase the Tigers salary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Well yeah I know that, but if he's not paying any saleries for the Red Wings, why can't he increase the Tigers salary? The rules of each of the respective league's prohibits it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Well yeah I know that, but if he's not paying any saleries for the Red Wings, why can't he increase the Tigers salary? He would have to take the $$ from the Wings budget to do so, which is not allowed. Unless I guess he chooses to take the $$ out of his personal pocket. FWIU the hockey owners still had to fund their teams in case they played this year. I would imagine that the Wings $$ is sitting in an interest bearing account waiting to be distributed. When are they supposed to decide if the players are getting their salaries or not anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 The rules of each of the respective league's prohibits it. So you're saying that even though there is a lockout and he isn't paying the players anything, he can't raise the Tigers salary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 So you're saying that even though there is a lockout and he isn't paying the players anything, he can't raise the Tigers salary? He can raise it all he wants. He just can't use the Wings $$ to pay the Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 He would have to take the $$ from the Wings budget to do so, which is not allowed. Unless I guess he chooses to take the $$ out of his personal pocket. FWIU the hockey owners still had to fund their teams in case they played this year. I would imagine that the Wings $$ is sitting in an interest bearing account waiting to be distributed. When are they supposed to decide if the players are getting their salaries or not anyway? I don't think they're worrying about that at all, since they're going to kill the entire season and are already threatening next season too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Their owner Mike Illitch I believe is willing to spend to get the team back up to .500. Of course with their being no hockey, it'll be interesting to see the attendance figures for this season, since Detroit is mainly a Hockey town. They could sign Troy Glaus or Steve Finley in the next few days possibly, they are going very hard after them both. For the last time!!! Finley will be signing on the West coast. That's all there is to it. His family lives in San Diego and he has gone on record saying that he wants to play close to his family. Around the trade deadline last year, he refused to go to any other team outside California. If he signs anywhere but San Diego, LA, or SF, I'll eat my hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 He can raise it all he wants. He just can't use the Wings $$ to pay the Tigers. I know he can't but it's not like he doesn't have spare money around right now. I think we're thinking a little differently right now. It's probably pretty clear to you but I already know he can't use the Red Wings money. It doesn't mean he won't think that way and boost up the Tigers salary because that's his only franchise that'll probably be running in the spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I don't think they're worrying about that at all, since they're going to kill the entire season and are already threatening next season too. Good grief. That's gotta suck big time for hockey fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I know he can't but it's not like he doesn't have spare money around right now. I think we're thinking a little differently right now. It's probably pretty clear to you but I already know he can't use the Red Wings money. It doesn't mean he won't think that way and boost up the Tigers salary because that's his only franchise that'll probably be running in the spring. I don't know anything about his personal finances. But I'd bet he's not taking his personal $$ to pay for the Tigers increase in payroll. Like I said earlier, the funds were likely planned due to the AS game. And like I also said, the hockey $$ was alloted way before the lockout so it's not like he has all those players salaries at his disposal. Also, that $$ is not for his personal use. It's invested in a business. Regardless.. it doesn't matter. He can't take from one and pay for the other. The two don't have anything to do with each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 The two don't have anything to do with each other. LOL sorry we're not on the same page here. I'm sure it's pretty obvious to you, but I'm not explaining it right I guess. Never mind then. Anyways I gotta go. Cya later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 LOL sorry we're not on the same page here. I'm sure it's pretty obvious to you, but I'm not explaining it right I guess. Never mind then. Anyways I gotta go. Cya later. It isn't legal. Baseball teams cannot be used to fund hockey teams, and vice versa. All of the major sports have rules and by-laws against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 LOL sorry we're not on the same page here. I'm sure it's pretty obvious to you, but I'm not explaining it right I guess. Never mind then. Anyways I gotta go. Cya later. I think you think that because he doesn't have to pay the hockey players he has extra $$.. is that what you're trying to say..? Again.. I have no idea of his personal finances.. but that payroll for the hockey team is not $$ that's at his personal disposal. That $$ has to have been allocated already for at least 1 season - and I'd bet 2, but I really have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Good grief. That's gotta suck big time for hockey fans. Yes it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Who said Hockey isn't going on?? That Pacers and Pistons game sure looked like an old Hockey game. How many times have you seen a player jump into the crowd while being on the bench or in the penelty box to kick the hell outta someone who is razzing them. Man I miss hockey.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babybearhater Posted November 22, 2004 Author Share Posted November 22, 2004 He would have to take the $$ from the Wings budget to do so, which is not allowed. Unless I guess he chooses to take the $$ out of his personal pocket. FWIU the hockey owners still had to fund their teams in case they played this year. I would imagine that the Wings $$ is sitting in an interest bearing account waiting to be distributed. When are they supposed to decide if the players are getting their salaries or not anyway? PS he also owns little ceasars!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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