southsider2k5 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Now hopefully he gets his season tickets revoked, and they sue the s*** out of him for this. http://www.clickondetroit.com/sports/3938054/detail.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I just watched what happened for the first time.. I am speechless. I agree Artest should never play the game ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Thats the same guy who was punching Artest in the back of the head as he tried to get Artest off of the first guy he jumped on. Hopefully they nail him to the wall as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I just watched what happened for the first time.. I am speechless. I agree Artest should never play the game ever again. Sorry I hate to be in arguments with you the whole day but I'm disagree with that big time. I think 73 games plus any playoff games is long enough. Numerous players said they'd do the same thing if it happend to them. I know Artest has had problems in the past, but that fan was just as much out of line. If you want to banish Artest forever that fan should never be able to see another NBA game in person either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue129 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Headline News was just talking about how he missed another 'meeting' with the Detroit cops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 What a true classless son of a b****. Who hops out of the way so he doesn't get his ass kicked and then jumps on him from behind. Thats pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 22, 2004 Author Share Posted November 22, 2004 that fan should never be able to see another NBA game in person either. I agree with that 100%. Revoke his season tickets, and charge him with every criminal offense possible. He is at least as responsible as Artest is. And hopefully the tickets belong to his company, and he loses his job just like Artest basically has(well for a year anyway). Honestly I am pissed off that the Pistons haven't made a bigger deal about these people losing their tickets and being procecuted. Fans like that are part of the problem in today's sports scene. Artest and the rest of them got their punishments, now it is time for the idiot fans to get theirs as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Numerous players said they'd do the same thing if it happend to them. Which only reveals the larger problem the NBA has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Sorry I hate to be in arguments with you the whole day but I'm disagree with that big time. I think 73 games plus any playoff games is long enough. Numerous players said they'd do the same thing if it happend to them. I know Artest has had problems in the past, but that fan was just as much out of line. If you want to banish Artest forever that fan should never be able to see another NBA game in person either. And so, IN MY OPINON, they should all be gone from basketball if they do something like that. Going into the crowd.. bulls***. Ban them for life. And I didn't offer an opinion on the fan so you can save the redirect to me on that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I'm just saying that if Artest was banned for life, which won't happen, the fan should be banned for life, which won't happen either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I'm just saying that if Artest was banned for life, which won't happen, the fan should be banned for life, which won't happen either. How can a fan be banned for life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 22, 2004 Author Share Posted November 22, 2004 How can a fan be banned for life? Easy. The team can refuse to ever sell him a ticket again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I'm just saying that if Artest was banned for life, which won't happen, the fan should be banned for life, which won't happen either. So then what is it you do not agree with "big time"....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Easy. The team can refuse to ever sell him a ticket again. So they would ID every one just to make sure that one person isn't there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Artest went after the wrong guy right at the beginning, but he never threw a punch at that guy. The guy he threw his punches at in the stands was the fan that was punching him in the side of the head (after which artest responded by punching). IT was also the same guy who nailed him with a beer. What Stephen Jackson did was far worse then what Ron Artest did, imo, or at least just as bad. I think neither deserved to be suspended the entire season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 So they would ID every one just to make sure that one person isn't there? They can say it, but it'll never work. That idiot Ligue was been banned from Comiskey, but he was seen there several times after the incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 They can say it, but it'll never work. That idiot Ligue was been banned from Comiskey, but he was seen there several times after the incident. Yeah, I remember hearing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Artest went after the wrong guy right at the beginning, but he never threw a punch at that guy. The guy he threw his punches at in the stands was the fan that was punching him in the side of the head (after which artest responded by punching). IT was also the same guy who nailed him with a beer. What Stephen Jackson did was far worse then what Ron Artest did, imo, or at least just as bad. I think neither deserved to be suspended the entire season though. Jason.. maybe watch that video again. It's clear that Artest hit the guy he went after first. The beer tosser got in a few shots from behind but I don't see where Artest got him back. By the time he turned around there were several people between them as far as I can see. And I can't agree with you.. a player of any sport going into the stands is so far out of line it's not even funny. What if Artest has stepped on and injured you or worse.. your kid on the way to get the beer tosser. Would you still feel what he did "wasn't as bad..."? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 They can say it, but it'll never work. That idiot Ligue was been banned from Comiskey, but he was seen there several times after the incident. About all they can do is ensure that he cant buy tix with his credit card and have him removed if someone happens to recognize him at a game. Aside from that its all talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Jason.. maybe watch that video again. It's clear that Artest hit the guy he went after first. The beer tosser got in a few shots from behind but I don't see where Artest got him back. By the time he turned around there were several people between them as far as I can see. And I can't agree with you.. a player of any sport going into the stands is so far out of line it's not even funny. What if Artest has stepped on and injured you or worse.. your kid on the way to get the beer tosser. Would you still feel what he did "wasn't as bad..."? No, I think Artest should be tried criminally if he injured anyone on the path to the fan. I'm not saying it was right, but If the fan who perpetrated this act isn't heavily punished, I think its absolute bulls***. Just because he's an athlete doesn't mean the other person should be able to get away with it. I think some of the fans were complete assholes. I may boo players or say shout things about a player sucking at a game every once in a while (or chant MVP Willie just to piss off a certain someone ) but throwing stuff onto the field/court is bs. What Artest did was completely wrong, but so is what the fan did. However, Artest could hit the guy that was punching him, imo. And the guy on the court was fiar game. I don't think O'Neal needed to hit him, but at the same time with all thats going on you have no idea whats going on in their minds. They are in a defensive state at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 (or chant MVP Willie just to piss off a certain someone ) Oh no you didn't.. I kind of understand the mindset of the players at that moment.. but there is no excuse for what he did and I hold him more responsible for what happened. Had he not gone into the crowd, and simply made enough noise and got the ass identified this would not have turned into what it did. I know it sounds too good to be true.. Artest being civil in that situation.. but this exact thing happened at the Bears game yesterday and the players - who were being hit with garbage and other crap - simply pointed the idiots out and they got removed from the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 (or chant MVP Willie just to piss off a certain someone ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Ron Artest shouldn't and won't be banned from the NBA. Let me just say this. While what he did was clearly wrong and merits the suspension, if I was at work and a customer threw something at me, you better believe they are going to get an ass beating. The clear culprit in this whole situation is Ben Wallace, who is now acting like he had nothing to do with the whole situation. This guy is completely classless and I cannot wait until they visit Indiana on Christmas day. I'm sure he's going to get himself a few presents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Oh no you didn't.. I kind of understand the mindset of the players at that moment.. but there is no excuse for what he did and I hold him more responsible for what happened. Had he not gone into the crowd, and simply made enough noise and got the ass identified this would not have turned into what it did. I know it sounds too good to be true.. Artest being civil in that situation.. but this exact thing happened at the Bears game yesterday and the players - who were being hit with garbage and other crap - simply pointed the idiots out and they got removed from the crowd. I agree, their are better ways to handle it. I just think the fans in Detroit now have this extra bit of control in the sense that they have ruined the season for the Pacers and in a sense cost some of the athletes millions. Thats probably not the right way to look at it, but its something I think needs to be partially factored. And your right the way the Bears handled it was superiorly better, in fact I don't think you can handle it much worse then the Pistons did. Part of it has to do with athletes being handled millions at such a young age, some of whom haven't had enough of an eductaion for many reasons, mainly because they have had grades handed to them for most of their life due to their ability to play basketball. Not everyone fits this bill, but their are enough NBA players and other athletes that fit into this notion that it puts of a vibe as if its how most of the athletes are (even though I don't think its near as many as people think). Still, image is a lot, and the NBA doesn't have a good image. The NFL seems to be cleaning its image back up after the Rae Carruth and Ray Lewis incidents. Steff, maybe at SoxFest I'll be able to team up and get that chant going. I'll just grab the mic and go MVP when Willie is standing on the stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Ben Wallace didn't force Artest into the crowd. He made that decision in his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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