Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Excpet Barry Bonds. Or Sammy Sosa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 I can tell you I b****ed like no other when the Sox acquired Damaso Marte for Matt Guerrier. I wrote an article calling for Kenny's head. I was already bitter over his previously retarded deal of sending Kip Wells for Todd Ritchie. Of course my main gripe was why give up a guy who was fighting for the 5th spot for a guy that was about to get waived (Marte). Little did I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 I don't know why you ask that question, one move 'alone' will really never get you to the playoffs, because in baseball, one player doesn't make a team... nobody gives a s*** about signing walker. the b****ing is about all the people we haven't signed over the past 25 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 nobody gives a s*** about signing walker. the b****ing is about all the people we haven't signed over the past 25 years. And no one gave two flying f***s last year when we traded for Juan Uribe. OK - go ahead and b**** all you want. He's making 100,000 -- go ahead and start losing some sleep over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 And no one gave two flying f***s last year when we traded for Juan Uribe. And I still don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 They haven't gotten us to the playoffs. But have those moves specifically (Marte, Shingo, Gordon) prevented us from going to the playoffs? No, in fact, they've made us a better team... I don't know why you ask that question, one move 'alone' will really never get you to the playoffs, because in baseball, one player doesn't make a team... I was intrigued when we picked up these three: Marte (didn't know anything about him, therefore intrigued) Shingo (all time saves leader in Japan) Gordon (vicious curveball and nice fastball when healthy) If Walker wasn't a 28 year old pitcher with less than 30 combined major league innings pitched over the past 4 seasons, people might not be ripping on him so hard. So you can definitely give all of the soxtalk clowns a free pass on this one. No need to defend a major stroke like Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 I was intrigued when we picked up these three: Marte (didn't know anything about him, therefore intrigued) Shingo (all time saves leader in Japan) Gordon (vicious curveball and nice fastball when healthy) If Walker wasn't a 28 year old pitcher with less than 30 combined major league innings pitched over the past 4 seasons, people might not be ripping on him so hard. So you can definitely give all of the soxtalk clowns a free pass on this one. No need to defend a major stroke like Walker. Oh, don't get me wrong -- I'm not defending the move. But some people (not jokingly) are criticizing the move like it's going to ruin this team and screw us. He's making 100,000 bucks if he sucks -- if he's any good, we got him for a half a million... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 I can tell you I b****ed like no other when the Sox acquired Damaso Marte for Matt Guerrier. I wrote an article calling for Kenny's head. I was already bitter over his previously retarded deal of sending Kip Wells for Todd Ritchie. Of course my main gripe was why give up a guy who was fighting for the 5th spot for a guy that was about to get waived (Marte). Little did I know I was really pissed when The Sox traded Guerrier for Marte, for the same reason. I couldn't understand why we gave up Kip Wells, Josh Fogg, and Matt Guerrier to the same team. My buddies and I predicted that KW solidified The Pirates rotation for years to come. Glad, we were wrong. I'll give Walker a chance. Not a horrible move Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Oh, don't get me wrong -- I'm not defending the move. But some people (not jokingly) are criticizing the move like it's going to ruin this team and screw us. He's making 100,000 bucks if he sucks -- if he's any good, we got him for a half a million... I don't care much about the money part of the deal, if he sucks, it's only going to cost us another $100,000. What partly angered me about this move though, was that he's now on the 40 man roster, which goes up to 39. Due to this, the Sox probably won't draft anyone in the Rule 5 draft now, and there's some good prospects in there like Sisco, Ring and Webster etc., who would probably give us more long - term than Walker though. Unless Konerko and Garland are traded, or someone else, we've only got room for 1 more on the 40 man roster. I have been reading up a little of Walker in the last few days though, and apparently he's a better starter than reliever, and has had some injury problems in the last few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 I don't care much about the money part of the deal, if he sucks, it's only going to cost us another $100,000. What partly angered me about this move though, was that he's now on the 40 man roster, which goes up to 39. Due to this, the Sox probably won't draft anyone in the Rule 5 draft now, and there's some good prospects in there like Sisco, Ring and Webster etc., who would probably give us more long - term than Walker though. Unless Konerko and Garland are traded, or someone else, we've only got room for 1 more on the 40 man roster. I have been reading up a little of Walker in the last few days though, and apparently he's a better starter than reliever, and has had some injury problems in the last few seasons. I would assume that KW felt that the team couldn't afford to carry a rule 5 guy on the 25 man roster all year for "long term" purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 And no one gave two flying f***s last year when we traded for Juan Uribe. I'm not sure thats entirely accurate. I seem to remember someone (I don't remember who) b****ing from the start because we traded Aaron Miles. It never bothered me any but I do remember seeing posts like that somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 I seem to remember someone (I don't remember who) b****ing from the start because we traded Aaron Miles. HSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 How can we make room on our 40 man roster just in case we sign a couple of FA's? Do we send the players down but do they have to clear the waivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 How can we make room on our 40 man roster just in case we sign a couple of FA's? Do we send the players down but do they have to clear the waivers? Trades are going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 He's the 2005 E-Lo find! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 How can we make room on our 40 man roster just in case we sign a couple of FA's? Do we send the players down but do they have to clear the waivers? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but can't people be removed from the 40 man roster just as easily as they can be sent to the minors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 They have to pass through waivers to be taken off the 40 man roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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