USAF_11F4H Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 The Cardinals already have offered Renteria 4 year / $22.0M deal. At only $5.5M a season, don't you think the Sox should sweep in with some 4 year / $24.0 type deal? Any show of hands here that wouldn't like Renteria at the top of our order and manning SS through 2008 for the Sox, for only $6.0M a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 The Cardinals already have offered Renteria 4 year / $22.0M deal. At only $5.5M a season, don't you think the Sox should sweep in with some 4 year / $24.0 type deal? Any show of hands here that wouldn't like Renteria at the top of our order and manning SS through 2008 for the Sox, for only $6.0M a year? Renteria at $6 mil a year is a steal. Problem is if our offer is that close to STL, I have no doubts he will stay in STL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 The Cardinals actually offered $32 mil, not $22 mil, so says Rotoworld. It's backloaded, so the value is a little less than $8 mil per. But I'd be surprised if he doesn't better offers than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 The Cardinals actually offered $32 mil, not $22 mil, so says Rotoworld. It's backloaded, so the value is a little less than $8 mil per. But I'd be surprised if he doesn't better offers than that. Now that makes a lot more sense. $8 mil a year is much more realistic with the market value that was already set. To think that Renteria was only going to average a million dollars a year more than Guzman would have been a pretty s***ty offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAF_11F4H Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 The Cardinals actually offered $32 mil, not $22 mil, so says Rotoworld. It's backloaded, so the value is a little less than $8 mil per. But I'd be surprised if he doesn't better offers than that. The Cubs continue to negotiate with Nomar Garciaparra on a one-year deal but must get it done by Dec. 7. Other intriguing possibilities include the Cardinals' Edgar Renteria and Boston's Orlando Cabrera, but neither will be cheap. The Cardinals already have offered Renteria $22 million over four years, and Cabrera wants three years at an average of more than the $6 million he made last season. A fallback would be Neifi Perez playing shortstop or second base. Maller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 "Offer the man a proper Drink" 5 years at 9 a season. Well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAF_11F4H Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 We'll probably have a SS platoon of Mike Caruso and Pat Listach (now there are some names from the early 90s archive). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Mike Caruso was not around in the early 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAF_11F4H Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 Mike Caruso was not around in the early 90's. Pardon me, I should have been more specific and winded and said "How's that for names from the early 90s in Listach and from the 98-99 campaigns in Caruso." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Pardon me, I should have been more specific and winded and said "How's that for names from the early 90s in Listach and from the 98-99 campaigns in Caruso." Yea.. pardon you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAF_11F4H Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 Yea.. pardon you. Done yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Done yet? Done what... asking for a correction on your incorrect comments...? When you post correct things you won't get asked to clarify. Maybe try to be clear the first time and you wouldn't have to be rude and condescending in your follow up replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Done what... asking for a correction on your incorrect comments...? When you post correct things you won't get asked to clarify. Maybe try to be clear the first time and you wouldn't have to be rude and condescending in your follow up replies. I understood what the comment meant.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I understood what the comment meant.. I didn't, which is why I inquired further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAF_11F4H Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 I didn't, which is why I inquired further. Good to know that you're so inquisitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 SO back to the topic at hand.. 5 years at 9 mil .. lets get it done first day of Winter Meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Good to know that you're so inquisitive. Well.. to be honest I did want to point out that you were incorrect - from my intrepretation anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAF_11F4H Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 Well.. to be honest I did want to point out that you were incorrect - from my intrepretation anyway. I'm just a dumb pilot anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAF_11F4H Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 SO back to the topic at hand.. 5 years at 9 mil .. lets get it done first day of Winter Meetings. Who would need to be moved to fit that salary into JRs finances? Konerko? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Who would need to be moved to fit that salary into JRs finances? Konerko? To fit into JR's.. probably no one. To fit into the boards.. definitely at least Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Who would need to be moved to fit that salary into JRs finances? Konerko? I have want to ship PK away the day we could start to trade players again.. He doesn't fit the mold of the 2005 Sox Pitching Speed Defensive Please tell me where Pauly fits into this? Personally I made the suggestion for a trade for Pauly to get 3 pieces of the puzzle that we need with still enough money to go after the last pieces to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I have want to ship PK away the day we could start to trade players again.. He doesn't fit the mold of the 2005 Sox Pitching Speed Defensive Please tell me where Pauly fits into this? Personally I made the suggestion for a trade for Pauly to get 3 pieces of the puzzle that we need with still enough money to go after the last pieces to win. He had a stolen base that one game. I say we slide him into our fifth starter spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 He had a stolen base that one game. I say we slide him into our fifth starter spot. wasn't that the same game that the catcher passed out on that play!! Pauly K is sooo Slow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Maller I wonder what the source for that Maller report is, b/c I'm sure it's a typo. The St Louis Post-Dispatch initially reported the $8 mil per over 4 years, here. The Cards wouldn't even bother to offer a contract like that. You're offering the best shortstop on the market barely more than Christian Guzman, and a paycut -- less money than he's made in each of the last 3 years. It's too absurd to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAF_11F4H Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 RJ needs to be moved .. to WHEREVER. It appears as if every other trade and/or signing is on hold because of it (and the winter meetings deadline approaching). How frustrating is that ... waiting on where (or even IF) RJ is moved ... to await the rest of the movement around the league. Anyone else think that once the RJ scenario is worked out, moved or not, that the flood gate for moves and signings will open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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