whitesox91403 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 What day do they actually start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 This year's Baseball Winter Meetings will be held in Anaheim, CA at the Hilton Anaheim as well as the Anaheim Convention Center, Friday, December 10 - Monday, December 13, 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rex Hudler Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 People will arrive Wed night or Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 i wonder if it would be cool at all to go? im not to far away from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I've always wondered what went on at these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I've always wondered what went on at these things. They talk about baseball... Duh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 i wonder if it would be cool at all to go? im not to far away from there. One of my good friends is leaving on Thursday to go there. I'm pretty jealous, I'm pretty interesting to see what goes on. I think it would be pretty cool...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 As Ozzie said...it's just a big reunion. What would you be able to do if you as a fan went there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Basically all you could do is roam the hotel and hang out in the hotel bars. You would see lots of name guys from GMs to managers to agents to media types. A fan would not have access to much unless you registered with the job fair and purchased tickets to some of the events. Access to the media room is very limited and not available to the public at all. Registering for the job fair PBEO at www.milb.com, gets you into job posting rooms and allows you to turn in resumes for available jobs (most of them are internships). I believe they have seminars on Thurs. or Fri. for job seekers. It would also get you access to the Trade Show. There are two other events, the annual Gala and Banquet and the Rule V draft. None are open to the public, but tickets to the Gala and Banquet could be purchased if part of the job fair. Neither would be particularly fascinating for "Joe Fan." Officially, they are not open to the public, but no one could stop you from hanging around the hotel lobby. That is about as far as you would get. That help? Winter Meetings Info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Thats pretty cool. Maybe I'll put a resume in saying I'm looking for a general manager position, LOL. Ahh, I'm too lazy, meetings are only like 15 minutes from my house too, lol. But if KW addresses some needs, maybe I'll drop a cigar by the hotel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Thats pretty cool. Maybe I'll put a resume in saying I'm looking for a general manager position, LOL. Ahh, I'm too lazy, meetings are only like 15 minutes from my house too, lol. But if KW addresses some needs, maybe I'll drop a cigar by the hotel. PBEO costs something like $175-$200 to register. I am surprised you aren't participating, considering the proximity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I've always wondered what went on at these things. I heard they exchange recepies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I heard they exchange recepies. drink recipes, perhaps....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 A semi-outsider's account of the winter meetings Baseball's Winter Meetings: Thursday Every year at baseball's winter meetings, a company called PBEO holds a large minor league job fair, where everyone from interns to broadcasters to GMs can apply for both seasonal and full-time jobs with minor-league teams. After reading about the winter meetings in Josh Lewin's book, Getting in the Game (a great book to buy if you're looking to get into baseball, and a very easy read), I registered for the job fair and headed down to Anaheim on Thursday, a day before the job fair and winter meetings officially started. I left Chicago on Thursday at 9 AM, having just finished finals the day before. After getting into Los Angeles airport at 3 PM, and taking a half-hour shuttle down to Anaheim, I checked into the Coast Anaheim hotel, a 3 minute walk from the Anaheim Convention Center where the job fair is held. The Coast is one of three hotels in the area near the convention center, and it's definitely the cheapest and the one where most PBEO jobseekers are staying. Figuring that I wouldn't get to see or meet any baseball bigshots at the Coast, I strolled over the Hilton hotel (4 minute walk), and took a peek inside. A couple jobseekers, no one important. Frustrated, and needing to make copies of my resume, I went to the Kinko's inside the Marriott. Immediately entering the lobby, I saw Steve Phillips talking with Paul DePodesta, and Peter Gammons meandering around in his a shaggy suit with tennis shoes, trying to get the inside scoop on signings. The most surprising part about being at the winter meetings is how little you actually know about the transactions going on. I didn't hear about the Troy Glaus or Jermaine Dye signings until a friend from KC called me to tell me about it. After just walking around the hotel lobby and looking for big shots, I headed back to my hotel to watch the end of the KU-TCU game, and to prepare for Day 1 of the Winter Meetings/PBEO Job Fair. The alarm's set for 6:30 AM. So far, no Theo Epstein sightings. Famous people seen: DePodesta, Phillips, Gammons, Ken Rosenthal, Jayson Stark, Jerry Crasnick. Goals for the meeting: 1) Stalk Theo Epstein. 2) Get a job. 3) Get tons of phone numbers and contacts. Friday, December 10, 2004 Baseball's Winter Meetings: Friday, Day 1 Day 1 starts early. Really early. I haven't waken up at 6:00 AM after a regular night of sleep since high school. Got up, got dressed, had some breakfast, logged on to check some email, and around 8:20 AM walked into the Anaheim Convention Center to start the job fair. When I walked in, about 50 people already had planted themselves outside the job posting rooms which opened at 9. The system was briefly explained to us: - Jobs would be posted in the room every hour between 9-5 throughout the weekend. - They varied from internships to GM and assistant GM positions to mascots to account executives to broadcasters. - All jobs except 3 were minor league jobs (the Tampa Bay Devil Rays were looking for a radio broadcaster!). - After seeing jobs you liked, you took your resume, wrote the number associated with the job on your resume, and turned it into the PBEO people. - The PBEO people in turn put the resumes into the drop box for the minor league team. - The minor league team executive picked up the resumes at his own time (could be any time during the weekend) - If the executive wanted to interview you, he posted an interview sheet in the interview posting room with names on it and time slots. - Interview! The best way to describe the job posting room would be to call it a meat market. You walk into the room filled with young suits, each carrying their leather attache, with their faces stuffed into the postings, and you just try to get a chance to read each post and see what position is offered. Most applicants were right out of college, either looking for their 2nd internship or entry-level job - there were many like me just looking for an internship. Throughout the day, I found about 30 jobs that looked appealing to me (i.e. they were internships that coincided with my start date) and dropped my resume off with those numbers scrawled on it. Meanwhlie, during the downtime when no real jobs were being offered, I walked over to the Marriott where I had seen so many baseball men the night before. While typing up Thursday's entry, Dusty Baker comes up right behind me and starts complaining to a White Sox exec about the Chicago weather. At that same Starbucks, I see Jayson Stark find the only avaible seat to be at the kids table (oh, don't worry, I made sure to get a picture), and Peter Gammons strutting around in his sneakers talking rumors with Stark. I also saw Jin Wong (Royals Director of Baseball Operations) and Art Stewart (Scout, Special Asst. to the GM) sit down at Starbucks and talk in hushed tones - I heard Stewart say something about "dealing with our favorite team, Washington" - so here it is, straight from the front office - the Royals are looking to swing a trade with the Nationals. I'd feel bad about posting a rumor like this, but that's probably close to how Gammons comes up with all his s***. The first person I saw here who I had met before was Will Carroll - I also saw him in the Marriott Starbucks (definitely the place to be - I saw John Schuerholz chatting there too). I don't mention this enough, but Carroll is a tremendously nice and available person. After being shocked that he even remembered my name, he politely asked how the job search was going, and I picked his brain about rumors, happenings, and completed deals. It was great to finally see a familiar face and hear a friendly voice here. The hotel lobby experience is interesting. It's half high school party, half dinner party. There's always at least 40 people standing and chatting, some loners who are just sitting/standing around, and others who seem to be having a good time. Of course, everyone's dressed up, and the smell of aftershave combined with all the male B.O. makes the lobby smell like a big industrial city in a third-world country. Huh, weird. Getting back to the job fair - at 5 PM I checked the interview posting room. I was surprised to see my name posted for three interviews so far: - The Williamsport Crosscutters Stadium Operations Internship ($500/month) - The Vermont Expos Summer Internship (unpaid) - New Jersey Cardinals Clubhouse Manager (TBD - probably around $700/month + dues + tips) Not exactly the most tremendous offers in terms of salaries, but I came in with the attitude that I'd work for free. Any salary is a bonus, and I was ecstatic to be considered for the Crosscutters internship. Hopefully more interviews will be posted tomorrow along with most jobs. The most surprising part here is the amount of qualified jobseekers that aren't getting any offers. Most adopt the same idea of "safety in numbers" by dropping of several resumes and many have some kind of baseball experience (which I don't) - or at the least are majoring or getting their masters in sports management (I'm majoring in economics... or statistics... or history? maybe classics?). One great kid I met in Wichita State's B.A. Sports Management program has already got some kind of internship set up through his university with the Wichita Wranglers - but he's only got one interview, and we applied for mostly the same jobs. All this makes me think, just like the college application process, this job fair is a major crapshoot. The story of an applicant being underqualified, but still getting an interview because his resume came after 5 straight horrible ones most likely holds true here as executives take only a couple hours (if that) to review job applicants. Tonight will be another early night for me. Already exhausted from having to wake up at 6:30, walking around all day in a black suit and dress shoes sucks a ton. Tomorrow's another early day, with the first interview at 10:40. Hopefully I'll find some interesting folks tomorrow to talk to (maybe a young boy genius GM from Boston?), and post them on here. And now as I'm typing this up in the Starbucks, I see J.P. Ricciardi pouring sugar into his small coffee and using three of those little straws to stir. Maybe I'll just stay here tonight. Famous people seen today: Tim Kurkijian, John Schuerholz, Dave Littlefield, Ozzie Guillen, Art Stewart, Jin Wong, Lou Pinella, Dusty Baker, J.P. Ricciardi. (Also White Sox director of baseball operations and White Sox scouting director) Theo sighting?: No! I'm getting desperate. Maybe I should start knocking on random doors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 where did u get that? you didnt write that did you? i wanna hear about the rest of his trip! =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 this is my favorite part of the season... I dunno why... maybe its cause the other parts always make me sad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Cheat, where did you find that write-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 That's what I want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Cheat, where did you find that write-up? 'Till you're Blue in the Face Its a royals fan site. About half way down the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 This: also saw Jin Wong (Royals Director of Baseball Operations) and Art Stewart (Scout, Special Asst. to the GM) sit down at Starbucks and talk in hushed tones - I heard Stewart say something about "dealing with our favorite team, Washington" - so here it is, straight from the front office - the Royals are looking to swing a trade with the Nationals. Plus this: The Cubs have discussed Sammy Sosa with the Nationals and the Royals during the winter meetings. The Rockies had been a candidate to acquire Sosa, but they may not still haven't interest in an exchange of bad contracts. A deal with the Royals would likely involve Mike Sweeney and a third team. If the Nationals figure out a way to fit Sosa into their budget, they'd likely move Nick Johnson and play Brad Wilkerson at first base. Dec. 12 - 1:25 pm et Source: Chicago Sun-Times Makes me wonder. Hmm. Oh, the second one is from Rotoworld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I'll be interested in seeing his Saturday report.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 As will I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Here's another one -- Friday and saturday recaps. -- http://www.all-baseball.com/richbeat/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Jeez Cheat, where do you find these? Keep up the good work! Lol. Also, I know this is way late, but...why'd you change your name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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