JDsDirtySox Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Sitting here thinking about all this crap that is going down in MLB right now... I am thinking about all of the players that I suspect to be on the roids. Wondering if we could try to come up with a list of who we think is probably guilty. Barry Bonds Jason Giambi Jeremy Giambi Mark McGwire Jose Canseco Ken Caminiti Sammy Sosa *those are the ones I suppose everyone would agree on. Other I suspect include: Jeff Bagwell Brady Anderson Luis Gonzalez Albert Pujols Agree or Disagree, or who else would you add to that list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Sitting here thinking about all this crap that is going down in MLB right now... I am thinking about all of the players that I suspect to be on the roids. Wondering if we could try to come up with a list of who we think is probably guilty. Barry Bonds Jason Giambi Jeremy Giambi Mark McGwire Jose Canseco Ken Caminiti Sammy Sosa *those are the ones I suppose everyone would agree on. Other I suspect include: Jeff Bagwell Brady Anderson Luis Gonzalez Albert Pujols Agree or Disagree, or who else would you add to that list? If Armando Rios is juicing, I'm convinced there's no way of knowing. Why Pujols? You haven't seen him explode in size or power. He's just always been good. Some guys are just big and talented, like Hurt. I don't know, maybe there's evidence I haven't seen. But I've never suspected him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Luis Gonzalez . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Benito Santiago. http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/s...ls/10341685.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Why Pujols? You haven't seen him explode in size or power. He's just always been good. Some guys are just big and talented, like Hurt. I don't know, maybe there's evidence I haven't seen. But I've never suspected him. I guess right now with everything going on, I am just suspicous about Pujols. It is probably unfair for me to suspect him, but I wouldn't be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 *those are the ones I suppose everyone would agree on. Other I suspect include: Jeff Bagwell Brady Anderson Luis Gonzalez Albert Pujols Agree or Disagree, or who else would you add to that list? I disagree with the whole list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I guess right now with everything going on, I am just suspicous about Pujols. It is probably unfair for me to suspect him, but I wouldn't be surprised. Remember, they have testing in the minors and he's looked the exact same way since he's come into the league. I highly doubt he's used 'roids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I disagree with the whole list. Even Brady Anderson? Bret Boone Jose Valentin Gabe Kapler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Remember, they have testing in the minors and he's looked the exact same way since he's come into the league. I highly doubt he's used 'roids. I agree. I think we're just very lucky to be able to watch Pujols. He could be one of the very great players. How quickly he replaced ARod as the best player in the game -- it was astonishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Even Brady Anderson? Bret Boone Jose Valentin Gabe Kapler Boone I don't know. Valentin, I doubt it -- any evidence? Kapler -- he is such a weight-room freak, I think that's about all. He's famous throughout the ML for that. If he was using, he'd be enormous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 brett boone kevin brown lenny dykstra clemens maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Brady Anderson hit 50 HRs in 1996. He went from a speedy CF, lead off hitter, to the biggest power threat in the majors. He then went on to only reach 20 HRs once in the next six years. I would bet anything on him. I am also confident in my guess of Luis Gonzalez. Gonzalez was a .250's hitter with 10 HR power for the first half of his career. He then bulked up and became an absolute monster. I don't buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Boone I don't know. Valentin, I doubt it -- any evidence? Kapler -- he is such a weight-room freak, I think that's about all. He's famous throughout the ML for that. If he was using, he'd be enormous. NO, I'm just speculating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Craig Grebeck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Brady Anderson hit 50 HRs in 1996. He went from a speedy CF, lead off hitter, to the biggest power threat in the majors. He then went on to only reach 20 HRs once in the next six years. I would bet anything on him. I am also confident in my guess of Luis Gonzalez. Gonzalez was a .250's hitter with 10 HR power for the first half of his career. He then bulked up and became an absolute monster. I don't buy it. I agree with you on Luis Gonzalez, and others have disagreed with me. I can't tell a god damn difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Craig Grebeck? Just for giggles, I looked him up. Never realized he was all of 5'-7", 155 pounds. The mf was RIPPED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Craig Grebeck? LMAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Tops on my list is bret boone. I am sure there are others, but I am to engrossed in the fire coverage to think of 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Even Brady Anderson? Bret Boone Jose Valentin Gabe Kapler He had one really freaky year, then went back to hitting 12-20 homeruns per season. If he went from hitting an average of 12 homeruns per seas for like five to six year then starting hitting 50-60 out of no where for 5 years in a row, i would questions it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 He had one really freaky year, then went back to hitting 12-20 homeruns per season. If he went from hitting an average of 12 homeruns per seas for like five to six year then starting hitting 50-60 out of no where for 5 years in a row, i would questions it. A lot depends on how hard he was working out, at what time. It's possible that he tried it, but just didn't care enough to keep it up. I'm not convinced either way on Anderson, but it does sound like a plausible story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Anderson did take steriods I believe. I remember there was a coverage on Outside the Lines about it. I know Rios, Santiago, Bernard, etc.. took them but I would question.. L.Gonzalez R.Gant Tejada (I might be out of ass on this one but IMO he is) Giambi (Jeremy) Clemens damn well isn't on the juice. That's god given ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Anderson did take steriods I believe. I remember there was a coverage on Outside the Lines about it. I know Rios, Santiago, Bernard, etc.. took them but I would question.. He has alwaysbeen accused of taking steroids but no one is certain of it. Jim palmer believes he did though, i read an article about it a couple of days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Anderson did take steriods I believe. I remember there was a coverage on Outside the Lines about it. I know Rios, Santiago, Bernard, etc.. took them but I would question.. L.Gonzalez R.Gant Tejada (I might be out of ass on this one but IMO he is) Giambi (Jeremy) Clemens damn well isn't on the juice. That's god given ability. Jeremy Giambi basically admitted he took them. (It's just that noone cares.) Tejada I doubt. He always had pretty good power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Jeremy Giambi basically admitted he took them. (It's just that noone cares.) Tejada I doubt. He always had pretty good power. I agree about tejada, he has always had 15-35 homerun power. He may even have one or two 40 home run seasons. He is such a damn good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I agree about tejada, he has always had 15-35 homerun power. He may even have one or two 40 home run seasons. He is such a damn good player. Kind of gives the lie to all those "walk-year" arguments, doesn't he? Has his best year ever in the first year of a multi-year deal. The Orioles got a damn good player, they make the first step towards rebuilding -- then they fail to look at serious pitching. What a waste -- but, hey, ya got Matt Riley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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