SoxFan562004 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 damn, this suddenly turned into WSI. Here's a brick wall and a mic for you wannabe comedians... You've added so much original thought to this thread. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 damn, this suddenly turned into WSI. Here's a brick wall and a mic for you wannabe comedians... You've added so much original thought to this thread. You forgot the teal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 damn, this suddenly turned into WSI. Here's a brick wall and a mic for you wannabe comedians... You've added so much original thought to this thread. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Now that may be the funniest thing I've ever read on this board. I'm thinking the exact same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Kenny " I have no comment on that. Im flying under the radar. Back to work" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Kenny " I have no comment on that. Im flying under the radar. Back to work" That was just lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 He made it up. No, I didn't http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1940014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 That was just lame. That's not the only thing he's said that's been lame in this monster of a thread.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Kenny " I have no comment on that. Im flying under the radar. Back to work" Can I just ask what you would do if you were the GM FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 8, 2004 Author Share Posted December 8, 2004 No, I didn't http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1940014 My bad, i thought he was talking about this list. I forgot who said it. Yeah, I found his list... 1. Go to Disneyland 2. Take picture with goofy 3. Hit Universal Studios 4. Call Bruce Levine tell him "i'm flying under the radar" on some moves 5. See a taping of "The George Lopez Show" 6. Buy mouse ears at airport for kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 One thing tells us danm truth wats going on. If he can just say yeah we trying bid on players but dont have money step up like other teams I be fine. But no he blamed media on giving out too much info on omar which quite frankily was not the problems. So kenny calls for under the radar thing whihc personally tells ya that any rumors are just made up because kenny is not letting anyone know. Espically the media. I at least like to know what he trying to acquire now since his plans failed for omar and rest he might of been looking at today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 So kenny calls for under the radar thing whihc personally tells ya that any rumors are just made up because kenny is not letting anyone know. Espically the media. I at least like to know what he trying to acquire now since his plans failed for omar and rest he might of been looking at today. I don't believe any rumors are made up. He'll place legitimate offers for FA's, and when the invitable moment arrives (when another team outbids us) he can truthfully claim 'efforts' in signing the particular player. Vizquel was an embarassment for the organization, and he's dictating all his moves around it. It's easier for fans to accept the White Sox missing out on a player when nearly the entire city is unaware. Maybe Jaret was just as close to signing with the Sox as Vizquel was. We'll never know, and that's how KW would prefer it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 only good thing that could come out of winter meetings is that KW has gone insane this week and he shows up dressed up as a ninja... stealthly creeping around the lobby... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 What's hilarious about the last 5 (s***, probably 12) pages is the Kenny Williams supporters/eternal optimists have abandoned their messiah. The insults are simply overwhelming to counter. EDIT: DBaho broke the streak. Let me just say that a lot of the KW supporters are kids, like myself, who do have school tomorrow, who are probably in bed...that may sound like an excuse, but it really is not. And I still believe KW did the right thing in not signing Jaret Wright, and I do still think he will make atleast one move of some signifigance, or will make a few moves that will not be as noteworthy. As I also said, I have no idea what type of moves those will be nor do I have any idea what direction the organization is headed. As of right now, I am clueless. Now, let the punchlines continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 As one of the more avid KW supporters I don't think I've done any trashing of him in this thread. I'm not pleased with the way the offseaosn has gone thus far, but Wright and Vizquel got deals that didn't make sense financially and RJ said no. Thats three guys that were targeted and I can't blame the Sox either way. Although the SOx may have to go a 180 and change their plan up cause the pieces they needed to address the areas they may of targeted may not be out for the taking anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Let me just say that a lot of the KW supporters are kids, like myself, who do have school tomorrow, who are probably in bed...that may sound like an excuse, but it really is not. And I still believe KW did the right thing in not signing Jaret Wright, and I do still think he will make atleast one move of some signifigance, or will make a few moves that will not be as noteworthy. As I also said, I have no idea what type of moves those will be nor do I have any idea what direction the organization is headed. As of right now, I am clueless. Now, let the punchlines continue Or maybe they feel they're wasting their time defending him because some "kids" making lame wise cracks can't get the facts through their heads. Seriously, what the f*** do you want him to do; come out and say "we're going to make every effort to sign Carlos Beltran and Pedro Martinez" just so he can get everyone's hopes up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 As one of the more avid KW supporters I don't think I've done any trashing of him in this thread. I'm not pleased with the way the offseaosn has gone thus far, but Wright and Vizquel got deals that didn't make sense financially and RJ said no. Thats three guys that were targeted and I can't blame the Sox either way. Why would you say something logical like that in a thread like this? :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 And I still believe KW did the right thing in not signing Jaret Wright, and I do still think he will make atleast one move of some signifigance, or will make a few moves that will not be as noteworthy. As I also said, I have no idea what type of moves those will be nor do I have any idea what direction the organization is headed. As of right now, I am clueless. Now, let the punchlines continue The problem is Williams is equally as clueless. Of course, he'll do SOMETHING, but to what degree his moves assist this team is worthy of debate. Surely missing out on three sought after FA's does not assure me of much hope. Here's my concern: KW enters the winter meetings desperate to create an offseaon splash and accepts a ridiculous trade for a starting pitcher. Signing Jaret Wright would have made everything so much easier. The rotation is complete, and Konerko is now available for trade; opposed to including him in a package for Vazquez, other starting pitcher. Our fifth starter debacle last season was not only due to the s***tiness of the pitcher, but the lack of confidence which plagued the offense. Every person on that team knew they'd have to score 8 runs to win a game under the 5th starter. Signing Wright and solidifying the rotation is a tremendous emotional boost. I will not accept Garland/Konerko for Vazquez as proof of improvement because we haven't substantially improved. Above all other logic there's still another starting spot left WIDE open for some journeyman. It's correct to assume New York overpayed, but if overpaying for Wright meant our rotation is finally complete I'd happily expect it. It didn't, and I have no influence in decisions. All I can do is sit back and watch Williams remind us of all the moves he made last offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 The problem is Williams is equally as clueless. Of course, he'll do SOMETHING, but to what degree his moves assist this team is worthy of debate. Surely missing out on three sought after FA's does not assure me of much hope. Here's my concern: KW enters the winter meetings desperate to create an offseaon splash and accepts a ridiculous trade for a starting pitcher. Signing Jaret Wright would have made everything so much easier. The rotation is complete, and Konerko is now available for trade; opposed to including him in a package for Vazquez, other starting pitcher. Our fifth starter debacle last season was not only due to the s***tiness of the pitcher, but the lack of confidence which plagued the offense. Every person on that team knew they'd have to score 8 runs to win a game under the 5th starter. Signing Wright and solidifying the rotation is a tremendous emotional boost. I will not accept Garland/Konerko for Vazquez as proof of improvement because we haven't substantially improved. Above all other logic there's still another starting spot left WIDE open for some journeyman. It's correct to assume New York overpayed, but if overpaying for Wright meant our rotation is finally complete I'd happily expect it. It didn't, and I have no influence in decisions. All I can do is sit back and watch Williams remind us of all the moves he made last offseason. If you were GM of the Sox, how much would you have given Wright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 If you were GM of the Sox, how much would you have given Wright? I would have offered a contract competitive to the Yankees. You can link Cheat's thread on his value, or cite injury woes, but for the money available to Williams he was the best option. A solid 1-5 is a luxury only a select teams have. Where else, exactly, will our money go this offseaon if not on the one area which has continually dashed our divisional hopes? Any 2 for 1, 3 for 1 trades will likely remove strengths from the offense to replace holes ignored from Free Agency. It just seems so unneccessary to configure these trades of Konerko/Garland for Vazquez when more could be accomplished by signing a FA pitcher, then trading Konerko for other pieces. Assure your fans of atleast one less question mark with this club. Or do you expect Garland to reach his potential and follow Hawk's preseason prediction of 18 wins? If I were that damn confident I'd fully accept Jason Grilli, or Shawn Chacon. What's left from here? Another year of 5th starter debacles? As I said in the previous post, the fifth starter is simply an albatross on the entire club. If paying an extra 2 million per year for a SP relieves that uneasiness I'd accept it. Again, I understand the organizations unwillingness to enter bidding wars. I simply believe William's job just became increasingly more difficult after this evening. General Managers will smell his desperation and rip him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I would have offered a contract competitive to the Yankees. You'd pay 8 million+ for Jaret Wright?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 You'd pay 8 million+ for Jaret Wright?!?! No. I'd offer a competitive contract with the Yankees. Something I guarantee Williams didn't do. Above 8 million/yr is ridiculous. Might as well sign Perez for that amount. I honestly don't know what else to say on this issue. I can't create an imaginary bidding war between myself and George Steinbrenner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/...scussion/24834/ Here's a link to various fans' reactions from the Yankees signings -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 After tonight's events, all I'm going to say is that I hope KW is going after Jon Lieber and going after him HARD, no matter how close he may be to signing with the Phillies. Otherwise it's Odalis Perez or slim pickings starting pitching wise. Can't see us giving $24 million over 3 years to Clement AND losing a pick in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 8, 2004 Author Share Posted December 8, 2004 http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/...scussion/24834/ Here's a link to various fans' reactions from the Yankees signings -- ''In other news, I have thrown up in my own mouth.'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 After tonight's events, all I'm going to say is that I hope KW is going after Jon Lieber and going after him HARD, no matter how close he may be to signing with the Phillies. Otherwise it's Odalis Perez or slim pickings starting pitching wise. Can't see us giving $24 million over 3 years to Clement AND losing a pick in the process. Best post in this whole damn thread, DBAH0. All the moaning, crying and b****ing is not going to change a thing. Vizquel was signed by SF for longer than any of us were comfortable with. KW would have been ripped to shreds here if he had signed OV to that deal. Jaret Wright signed for more money than a majority here thought he was worth. Again, KW would have been ripped. Randy Johnson said no. That's beyond KW's control. This whole thread has been one shot at KW after another and I'll tell ya, he did not screw up by not signing Wright to that contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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