AnthraxFan93 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Guess you could not do any better. :sleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 :sleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 :sleep sleeping on the job...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 sleeping on the job...? Blame They are not even a real country anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Blame They are not even a real country anyways. :dips*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 ugh ... threads like these should be placed in a seperate forum where only the idiots can post. Everything that SSK said is right on the money and my thoughts exactly. the Sox rank higher in the league in payroll than do in attendance, so being cheap makes no damn sense. as far putting out a winner? hard to argue that considering their failure to make the playoffs, but KW and the Sox have, in my opinion, tried harder to put out a winner over the past few seasons than most of the 29 remainding teams. And their logic within the effort has been understandable to say the least. things just haven't worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 :dips*** I was also wondering where the f*** that idiotic statement came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I was also wondering where the f*** that idiotic statement came from. My sentiments exactly. The smilies were put in perfect order, thats the exact same reaction I had. LMFAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 ugh ... threads like these should be placed in a seperate forum where only the idiots can post. Everything that SSK said is right on the money and my thoughts exactly. the Sox rank higher in the league in payroll than do in attendance, so being cheap makes no damn sense. as far putting out a winner? hard to argue that considering their failure to make the playoffs, but KW and the Sox have, in my opinion, tried harder to put out a winner over the past few seasons than most of the 29 remainding teams. And their logic within the effort has been understandable to say the least. things just haven't worked out. Agreed. The Sox are always one of the top teams to make it to the playoffs, cuz of being in the CD, the last 4 years. With the SMARTEST aquisitions for the 2005 season still ahead of us....they are on pace to make it 5 years of being a playoff contention team, though they made it only one year in the last 5. Where pitching, injuries and just plain sucking it up has been the excuses. With the talent the team has had in recent years they should have at least made it in 3 of the last 5 years...but haven't performed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 as far putting out a winner? hard to argue that considering their failure to make the playoffs, but KW and the Sox have, in my opinion, tried harder to put out a winner over the past few seasons than most of the 29 remainding teams. And their logic within the effort has been understandable to say the least. things just haven't worked out. When are people going to understand this, IT"S THE RESULTS THAT MATTER!!!, who cares how much effort you put into making a winner, you haven't done it. Whats the difference between us and Montreal since 2000. Together we have a total of 0 playoff appearances. Look at the Mets, over the past few seasons, who has gone out and been more agressive then the the Mets and what do they have to show for it. So they were in th race barely last year at the deadline, they acquired Victor Zambrano for Scott Kazmir; well it's the effort that matters. That's retarted thinking, and anyone who thinks like that has severe problems. We're not the Yankees, and no one's comapring ourselves. We don't need to spend a ton of money and make a ton of moves. All we need to do is make the right moves and we haven't been able to do that. You guys have to get that through your heads. Hey, I've already said I don't like the signing, mainly because of the money, but I'm not here to really grade the move or begin my "fire KW" thread yet. We'll se how it works out during the season. Do I think the Sox should have looked somewhere else, yes. You could have looked to sign Percival earlier, you could have looked at Hoffman earlier, you could have tried to acquire Dotel, or Julio, or Flash Gordon. There were other possibilities, probably better then Hermanson. I hope he does well for the Sox sake, but in my opinion, i'm not too optimistic about the future results; I really hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 When are people going to understand this, IT"S THE RESULTS THAT MATTER!!!, who cares how much effort you put into making a winner, you haven't done it. Whats the difference between us and Montreal since 2000. Together we have a total of 0 playoff appearances. Look at the Mets, over the past few seasons, who has gone out and been more agressive then the the Mets and what do they have to show for it. So they were in th race barely last year at the deadline, they acquired Victor Zambrano for Scott Kazmir; well it's the effort that matters. That's retarted thinking, and anyone who thinks like that has severe problems. We're not the Yankees, and no one's comapring ourselves. We don't need to spend a ton of money and make a ton of moves. All we need to do is make the right moves and we haven't been able to do that. You guys have to get that through your heads. Hey, I've already said I don't like the signing, mainly because of the money, but I'm not here to really grade the move or begin my "fire KW" thread yet. We'll se how it works out during the season. Do I think the Sox should have looked somewhere else, yes. You could have looked to sign Percival earlier, you could have looked at Hoffman earlier, you could have tried to acquire Dotel, or Julio, or Flash Gordon. There were other possibilities, probably better then Hermanson. I hope he does well for the Sox sake, but in my opinion, i'm not too optimistic about the future results; I really hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 It gets frustrating after awhile. :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Hey, I've already said I don't like the signing, mainly because of the money, but I'm not here to really grade the move or begin my "fire KW" thread yet. We'll se how it works out during the season. Do I think the Sox should have looked somewhere else, yes. You could have looked to sign Percival earlier, you could have looked at Hoffman earlier, you could have tried to acquire Dotel, or Julio, or Flash Gordon. There were other possibilities, probably better then Hermanson. I hope he does well for the Sox sake, but in my opinion, i'm not too optimistic about the future results; I really hope I'm wrong. Butter -- sorry if I'm pushing onto territory I shouldn't be on, but what team's GM are you? Because, you obviously have information that relates to who the Sox go out and try to get, and who they haven't gone out and tried to get... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 It gets frustrating after awhile. :banghead Pot, meet kettle... :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I never said the Sox didn't look to make those moves or they didn't, they might have considered one of them or all of them. But I have a hard time believing, with KW's agressive nature, that he struck out with everyone else and Hermanson was the best available option. You know thats not right. I also loved your follow up reply, it was hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I never said the Sox didn't look to make those moves or they didn't, they might have considered one of them or all of them. But I have a hard time believing, with KW's agressive nature, that he struck out with everyone else and Hermanson was the best available option. You know thats not right. I also loved your follow up reply, it was hilarious. Hermanson was one of the most sought after relievers this season. Just so you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I never said the Sox didn't look to make those moves or they didn't, they might have considered one of them or all of them. But I have a hard time believing, with KW's agressive nature, that he struck out with everyone else and Hermanson was the best available option. You know thats not right. I also loved your follow up reply, it was hilarious. How so? Were the Sox ever on the fast track to getting Benitez? I certainly didn't think so. And, while Percival might have been nice, he got an awfully good contract (overpaying, IMHO) from Detroit. Hermanson did a damn good job closing, in a penant run, for the Giants last season. So what, he can't start -- oh well, like qwerty mentioned, most relievers are failed starters anyways. He's a nice reliever to have, especially at 2.75 million, which isn't an awful lot -- he's definitely not someone Kenny found at the bottom of the barrell (sp?)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 When are people going to understand this, IT"S THE RESULTS THAT MATTER!!!, who cares how much effort you put into making a winner, you haven't done it. Whats the difference between us and Montreal since 2000. Together we have a total of 0 playoff appearances. Look at the Mets, over the past few seasons, who has gone out and been more agressive then the the Mets and what do they have to show for it. So they were in th race barely last year at the deadline, they acquired Victor Zambrano for Scott Kazmir; well it's the effort that matters. That's retarted thinking, and anyone who thinks like that has severe problems. We're not the Yankees, and no one's comapring ourselves. We don't need to spend a ton of money and make a ton of moves. All we need to do is make the right moves and we haven't been able to do that. You guys have to get that through your heads. Hey, I've already said I don't like the signing, mainly because of the money, but I'm not here to really grade the move or begin my "fire KW" thread yet. We'll se how it works out during the season. Do I think the Sox should have looked somewhere else, yes. You could have looked to sign Percival earlier, you could have looked at Hoffman earlier, you could have tried to acquire Dotel, or Julio, or Flash Gordon. There were other possibilities, probably better then Hermanson. I hope he does well for the Sox sake, but in my opinion, i'm not too optimistic about the future results; I really hope I'm wrong. read what I said again and you'll see that I: A. noted the whole playoff appearance thing and B. I made it clear that they not only put forth the effort, but they were understandable while doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Understandable? I don't think your understanding something, we're not the professionals, KW is the GM, so who cares what we think of the trade. We don't know what he knows, but I know one thing, most of his trades suck and they don't work out, so who cares if they're understandable, again I'll say it, ITS THE RESULTS THAT MATTER!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 ITS THE RESULTS THAT MATTER!!! Then there should have been 29 open GM spots for you to interview for this off-season. There weren't, so obviously your assertion is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Same old rant, different day... I'll never understand the expectations that some people have of the Sox. Why because some people here aren't lapdogs for everything KW and JR say and all the talk of how we are going to do this and that every year with NO real intention of doing so. :fthecubs and Lapdogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Because I understand one thing. Its entertainment. I have expectations in my family, at my workplace, at my home, etc. I don't have expectations of entertainment, other than to be entertained. Why would I want to do something in my freetime that pisses me off? It doesn't make any sense to me. Ladies and Gentlemen, We Have A Winner!!!! It's ENTERTAINMENT. That's ALL it is, and if you're not entertained, then watch something that will entertain you. God knows there's enough junk to watch out there... I'd love nothing more than for the Sox to win the whole f***in' thing, but if they don't ( which is every year ...wait, I mean ) I don't run around screaming and b****ing about it. People who know me in "real life" ( as opposed to this superhero life I'm living here ) know that when I play sports I have pretty huge expectations of myself, but ALL I expect from the White Sox is a fun day or night at the park. Seeing them win is more fun, of course, but I'm not going to let a professional sports team ruin my mood. If that makes me "less of a fan", then so be it - I'm not really in any Best Fan Ever competition anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Ladies and Gentlemen, We Have A Winner!!!! It's ENTERTAINMENT. That's ALL it is, and if you're not entertained, then watch something that will entertain you. God knows there's enough junk to watch out there... I'd love nothing more than for the Sox to win the whole f***in' thing, but if they don't ( which is every year ...wait, I mean ) I don't run around screaming and b****ing about it. People who know me in "real life" ( as opposed to this superhero life I'm living here ) know that when I play sports I have pretty huge expectations of myself, but ALL I expect from the White Sox is a fun day or night at the park. Seeing them win is more fun, of course, but I'm not going to let a professional sports team ruin my mood. If that makes me "less of a fan", then so be it - I'm not really in any Best Fan Ever competition anyway. I see where you're coming from but to be perfectly honest the sox are more then just entertainment for me.......... As sad as that might be it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I see where you're coming from but to be perfectly honest the sox are more then just entertainment for me.......... As sad as that might be it's true. I really don't have a huge problem with that, everyone's got their own approach to it. It's just when everything comes out negative that I wonder why someone'd keep doing that to themselves. I don't think you've done that, 44 - I see a lot of positivity in your posts, so I'd assume that you're not sour....yet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I just hope on paper we have a better team next year than this past year. I have my concerns. Big Frank according to the papers won't be ready for the get-go. That's not good. We all saw what we were like w/out Maggs and Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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