black jack Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Do you even know what ops is without looking it up? i don't. could you please tell me so i know what people are talking about around here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Omar Vizquel is a done deal too. I will believe it when I see it. Until the offseason is over I won't believe anything I hear unless it is official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Currently the Sox payroll would be about $69-70M -- depending on arbitration rewards, who actually makes the roster, and if they choose to take some players to arbitration or not. That is almost exactly what I have according to my numbers. I have about $70,700,000. So, that gives us about enough money to sign a back up middle infielder. If we could just get ride of Carl Everett, we would have enough to sign Renterea, but I dont see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 i don't. could you please tell me so i know what people are talking about around here? On Base plus Slugging. FWIW, I really don't know what factors into it, but I've always assumed it deals with walks, homers, and extra base hits. And, back to the topic -- I believe that Kenny has enough for a player that would either platoon (Cairo at, say, two-three million -- not saying that's what I would give him...), or another reliever (though I doubt that's the direction we're going to go). Like GeneHC, any other move will have to come with another contract coming off the current Sox' books (most likely, Konerko or Lee). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 i dont see them moving lee, kong, yes... lee no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Currently the Sox payroll would be about $69-70M -- depending on arbitration rewards, who actually makes the roster, and if they choose to take some players to arbitration or not. Yup, I've got $69.8 million with ONE 25-man roster spot to fill (probably league minimum or cheaper), which will push it over $70 million. 2005 1 Freddy Garcia $8,000 2 Mark Buerhle $5,750 3 Carlos Lee $8,000 4 Paul Konerko $8,750 5 Frank Thomas $8,000 6 Jose Contreras $6,000 7 Damaso Marte $1,250 8 Juan Uribe $1,500* 9 Willie Harris $350* 10 Aaron Rowand $1,500* 12 Joe Crede $400* 13 Ben Davis $1,000* 14 Ross Gload $350* 15 Shingo Takatsu $2,500 16 Jon Garland $3,400 17 Jon Adkins $350* 18 Timo Perez $1,000* 19 Jamie Burke $350* 20 Neil Cotts $350* 21 Jermaine Dye $4,000 22 Dustin Hermanson $2,000 23 Cliff Politte $1,000 24 Carl Everett $4,000 TOTAL $69,800 *= estimated arbitration award/Sox controlled salary. Man does $70 million go fast without the Sox adding significant upgrades. The Everett contract is a real killer - that $4 million plus the $4 million to Dye is $8 million that could have bought a top-of-the-line starter like Wright or Clement. I hope they non-tender Timo Perez and let him take his sub-.300 OBP elsewhere. They could save $700k by plucking a 4th OF from some other team's organization. Here's the other bad news - $34 million is committed for next year already, too, on just 6 players (Freddy, Buerhle, Contreras, Marte, Dye, Hermanson). Pile in the options on Big Frank ($10) and Carlos ($8), and you've got $52 million on 8 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Holy cripes, thats a lot of money. I still say the Sox can buyout Thomas' contract but I know a few people have said the contrary to that. But thats a whole lot of money tied up to a few guys. Especially with Rowand and Co. due for some raises if they produce over a full season. Leads me to believe if the Sox struggle this year you'll see quite a few guys get dealt with the team trying to quickly retool. Hopefully they can do it this year though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Levine is full of s*** , always ahas been says the same crap over and over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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