AnthraxFan93 Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 5 years $70 million isn't decent? With defering payments, to one of the best players the Sox have.. Yeah sure it is, I mean I see other teams treat the best player on the team like s*** all the time and they love it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 If they would have offered him a decent contract last year we would not be sitting here today discussing this, instead looking for a SP and SS..But, in typical sox fashion we low ball everyone, and then b**** about one thing or another of why we can't sign anyone. Alrighty, Mr. Hindsight,if we would have signed him last year, we would have had more questions, such as...do we get Jermaine Dye, JR Drew, Richard Hidalgo because we don't know if Maggs will ever be able to play again? Is he going to be able to play RF effectively, or do we have 3 DHs on this team? Why did we give him 5/$70 and possibly have it handcuff us for all five of those years? Sorry, Anthrax, but you are wrong on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Your 100% right JR is .. Not the Sox Oh yes.. the 5% shareholder is raking it in over the 20% holders.. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 With defering payments, to one of the best players the Sox have.. Yeah sure it is, I mean I see other teams treat the best player on the team like s*** all the time and they love it? Because many teams best players never have deferred payments :rolly Besides the Sox final contract offer was for all of the money on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 The fact is KW said yesterday, and Bruce Levine also reported that the White Sox are now at their 2005 budget with Jermaine Dye pulling in $4 million next year. Considering they have a few more holes to fill, this shows the White Sox, at least after they signed Garcia to an extension and brought in Contreras, if not before, had no intention of bringing Magglio back. The contract they offered Magglio, I'm sure they knew would be rejected. He went to Vienna after the White Sox declared him out for the season, and after the team already determined he would no longer play here, and under the advice of a White Sox team doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 5 years $70 million isn't decent? That doesn't appear to be accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 The fact is KW said yesterday, and Bruce Levine also reported that the White Sox are now at their 2005 budget with Jermaine Dye pulling in $4 million next year. Considering they have a few more holes to fill, this shows the White Sox, at least after they signed Garcia to an extension and brought in Contreras, if not before, had no intention of bringing Magglio back. The contract they offered Magglio, I'm sure they knew would be rejected. He went to Vienna after the White Sox declared him out for the season, and after the team already determined he would no longer play here, and under the advice of a White Sox team doctor. Except that the doctor didn't work for the Sox... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False Alarm Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 If they would have offered him a decent contract last year we would not be sitting here today discussing this, instead looking for a SP and SS..But, in typical sox fashion we low ball everyone, and then b**** about one thing or another of why we can't sign anyone. if we'd've given him the contract he wanted, with all that cash dumped on him up front, we wouldn't be looking for a SP and SS. we'd be sitting on our thumbs with a maxed-out payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 under the advice of a White Sox team doctor. This is a lie... or at the very least misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 if we'd've given him the contract he wanted, with all that cash dumped on him up front, we wouldn't be looking for a SP and SS. we'd be sitting on our thumbs with a maxed-out payroll. With Jason Grilli, Esteban Loiaza, and Felix Diaz in the rotation, minus Contreras and Garcia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 This is a lie. KW is a great Gm.. That sure is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 This argument is going no where and geting f***ing old....Love Mags or hate Mags... who gives a s***. Only thing that matters is HE GAWN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 <Yawn> This argument is going no where and geting f***ing old....Love Mags or hate Mags... who gives a s***. Only thing that matters is HE GAWN! And we get stuck with Dye.. OO JOY :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 KW is a great Gm.. That sure is Kenny sucks. Won't argue that. Another fact.. you're obvious goal is to only cause trouble here so you have fun posting your bulls*** lies and whining and crying about the moves the Sox didn't make 2 years ago that would have won them the series. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 And we get stuck with Dye.. OO JOY :fyou Go crosstown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Except that the doctor didn't work for the Sox... Yes he does. If he wants to say he didn't for the 5 minutes it took for him to give Magglio the referral, that's his business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Yes he does. If he wants to say he didn't for the 5 minutes it took for him to give Magglio the referral, that's his business. Now I know why Phillies fans threw batteries at you when you went by the name Richie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 And we get stuck with Dye.. OO JOY :fyou So, why are you a fan? Turn in your tickets. if you don't think your money is going to be spent the way you want...don't go. It's like voting. You have a choice. And i have a choice. I would love to still be living in Chicago and see my Sox when i can. Man, Anthrax, you were doing good for awhile, but now, here's my choice. Skipping over all of your posts and not responding anymore. Cuz you just don't want to listen to anyone's opinions but your own. Sorry, mods, if you think this is a personal attack. I'm just stating my preference about one other poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 This is a lie... or at the very least misleading. No its not. Is Weil a team doctor? Did he refer Magglio to the Vienna doctor? Weil has all the reports on Magglio's european surgery. He knows what was reported. Funny how he didn't say anything to the White Sox about it, but is now giving all the details to the Tribune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Kenny sucks. Won't argue that. Another fact.. you're obvious goal is to only cause trouble here so you have fun posting your bulls*** lies and whining and crying about the moves the Sox didn't make 2 years ago that would have won them the series. :rolly Speak for yourself, I had a plan in place from 2 years ago that would have had us in the playoffs these past 2 years, with a farm system that would be growing and getting better, those plans have changed. Here what we need to do this year Ship off Marky B Pauly Lee We can throw in there place Diaz Gload Anderson Just think about how much more money JR can pocket then My goal here is simple to try and have the sox nation see the truth about JR and the Sox..to many people here live by the word of JR and KW.. both of which I hate. People fail to realize that since we have no 100 mil payroll you need a good farm system something that under KW.. has never happened. The dir of scouting, does he not report to KW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 No its not. Is Weil a team doctor? Did he refer Magglio to the Vienna doctor? Weil has all the reports on Magglio's european surgery. He knows what was reported. Funny how he didn't say anything to the White Sox about it, but is now giving all the details to the Tribune. Including the fact that he was NOT employed by the Sox when he gave the doctor's name to Maggs. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Including the fact that he was NOT employed by the Sox when he gave the doctor's name to Maggs. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead He is or at least was a White Sox team doctor at the time, correct? He was treating Frank at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Including the fact that he was NOT employed by the Sox when he gave the doctor's name to Maggs. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead But he still is a team doctor is he not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 He is or at least was a White Sox team doctor at the time, correct? He was treating Frank at the time. If he was treating Frank, then no. Frank's doctor does not work for the Sox. Frank's doctor is in Las Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 He is or at least was a White Sox team doctor at the time, correct? He was treating Frank at the time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the team doctors just spend part of their time with the team -- they have an outside practice as well, I think. Since they obviously know sports medicine fairly well, it doesn't seem strange that they would be asked for advice from other patients, or that they can reasonably separate team business from other business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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