Mr. Showtime Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 From the SouthTown: One source said Thursday the Sox have been in talks with Oakland for a deal that would land either Tim Hudson or Barry Zito, and would involve a package that included left fielder Carlos Lee. "There's very little (free-agent) money left, unless I wanted to add a bench player at the right cost," Williams said of his payroll. "If I want to add an impact player now, I would have to move some salary." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Interesting, the only problem is I see the terms a package of players. Personally I think Lee should be good enough to get the Sox Tim Hudson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 For Hudson I would say yes, I would be hesitant for Zito... Sox would still need to add a bat unless the team determined that Sweeney or Anderson are that far along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Then who plays LF? Just curious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Both Everett or Gload can play LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Knowing Kenny it will be a package. Kenny will get Flecced by Beane once again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I am nervous when Lee's name comes up in trade talks cause I think he's an All Star. If they get Hudson they better be serious about locking him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I think there'd have to be a 3rd team involved here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Kenny dealing with Beane certainly makes me nervous...this is one of those trades I wouldn't mind trading Lee in. Lee for Hudson.. hell yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Kenny dealing with Beane certainly makes me nervous...this is one of those trades I wouldn't mind trading Lee in. Lee for Hudson.. hell yeah. How would you feel about Lee and Garland for Hudson? If we could sign Hudson to an extension I would make that deal in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I would think Lee should be enough for Huddy...I don't know if I would chip in Garland just due to that still leaving a hole in the rotation.....if needed maybe chip in a prospect.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Beane Licks his chops when thinking about dealing with Kenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 How about Lee for Hudson and Byrnes. Byrnes strikes out a lot, but he had an OBP just below .350. Maybe Lee and one of Diaz/Munoz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 This does make me nervous. Lee straight up for Hudson is a good deal. Lee plus some second level minor league guy who Beane happens to have a hard-on for might also be OK. My guess though is that Beane will find a way to get Anderson or Sweeney from Kenny too. Lee and Garland for Hudson I'd only be alright with if KW has someone lined up as a 5th starter who is not currently on the roster (a free agent in other words.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 How would you feel about Lee and Garland for Hudson? If we could sign Hudson to an extension I would make that deal in a heartbeat. Personally I'd :puke That would be drastically overpaying. Carlos Lee is a stud offensive player. One whose young and will be under contract next year at a fair price (9 mill or so). If they deal Lee I already think its near mandatory that they lock up Huddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I would like Byrnes.... play him in CF and move Rowand to LF....Byrnes is a mad man and plays his ass off. I would be all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 This does make me nervous. Lee straight up for Hudson is a good deal. Lee plus some second level minor league guy who Beane happens to have a hard-on for might also be OK. My guess though is that Beane will find a way to get Anderson or Sweeney from Kenny too. Lee and Garland for Hudson I'd only be alright with if KW has someone lined up as a 5th starter who is not currently on the roster (a free agent in other words.) Nah, he'll probably look at Bmac and oh man will I flip if him or any of the top prospects are dealt. If Kenny can find a 3rd team in that would have some use for Konerko and then Anderson and say Diaz are involved. I don't know who the 3rd team is. But say the Sox give up those three, A's get Anderson and Giles (just a suggestion, they could look at other teams) and the Braves pick up Konerko and Diaz (maybe a little cash) then who knows. I should say I don't think Atlanta does this, but their could be a 3rd team out their somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I would like Byrnes.... play him in CF and move Rowand to LF....Byrnes is a mad man and plays his ass off. I would be all for it. I was thinking the same thing. I doubt Beane would do this, but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I don't know who the 3rd team is. But say the Sox give up those three, A's get Anderson and Giles (just a suggestion, they could look at other teams) and the Braves pick up Konerko and Diaz (maybe a little cash) then who knows. But they just resigned Julio Franco. And he's got upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I would like Byrnes.... play him in CF and move Rowand to LF....Byrnes is a mad man and plays his ass off. I would be all for it. If the Sox got Byrnes and Hudson for Lee, Anderson and anyone but Bmac and Sweeney (from the minors) then fine by me. I love Brynes. Guy is a great defensive player and a pretty good top of the order guy. Speedy Gonzalez too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Then who plays LF? Just curious... It's the old plug one hole and create another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 How about Lee for Hudson and Byrnes. Byrnes strikes out a lot, but he had an OBP just below .350. Maybe Lee and one of Diaz/Munoz? He'd be a great addition to this ballclub, unfortunately, Beane is in love with him. So, although I agree he'd be fantastic on the Southside, let's just take him out of the the picture all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Just a paralysis by analysis update... ESPN Radio is saying the A's are talking to "a number" of teams about Hudson... Only mentions the Orioles specifically but that's because they are making an offer to Pavano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 He'd be a great addition to this ballclub, unfortunately, Beane is in love with him. So, although I agree he'd be fantastic on the Southside, let's just take him out of the the picture all together. he was also in love with Kielty...and that didn't work out too well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Just a paralysis by analysis update... ESPN Radio is saying the A's are talking to "a number" of teams about Hudson... Only mentions the Orioles specifically but that's because they are making an offer to Pavano I'm fairly certain the Hudson talks, at least at this point in time, involve the... Braves: a deal surrounding Marcus Giles and a top pitching prospect Cards: a deal surrounding Marquis/Haren and a top second baseman White Sox: a deal surrounding Garland and Harris/IF prospect Beane has gone on record saying he wants a young pitcher and a two-bagger. Take it for what its worth. EDIT: Actually, I've heard both Garland and Lee's name mentioned with the A's. Harris was actually just wishful thinking on my part. I want to make that clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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