chisox2334 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Ozzies tells the truth and point blank heres answer of this even happening Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said he would love to see Johnson in a White Sox uniform. "That's a good rumor," Guillen said. "We always go by dreams, and I think my general manager (hasn't been getting) three or four days of sleep thinking about it. If Randy Johnson comes here, it would be nice. But you have to go through a lot of different things to get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 This is just my gut feeling after processing all the information... but I think RJ will end up staying in Arizona. He'll be satisfied that AZ improved themselves with Glauss and Ortiz, and I think AZ will basically tell him we're not getting good enough offers, so we're not going to move you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Really looking back through his career he has been under 200 IP twice in the last 15 years. 2003 when he was hurt, and 1994 when he still pitched 172 innings, which is enough to qualify for the ERA crown. Johnson has had one injury, in one year. That's it. Everything else is just speculation. Not really. I worry a little about Johnson's health, not b/c of his injury history, but b/c the description of his knee's condition sounds pretty bad. From what I've read, he's got almost no cartilage remaining in his right knee. I know he gets those fluid injections, but it just doesn't sound very stable. Now, I know that's not educated medical knowledge, but it is more than "just speculation". I'd actually be really interested in hearing the opinion of someone who understands this type of treatment better. That said, I'd still love to see the Sox take on RJ. I would probably take him for one season over any other pitcher in the ML, he's just too dominant to pass up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 After basically being told that RJ doesn't want to pitch here, KW should lower his offer. Make it Kong, Diaz, and Valenzuela. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Valenzuela. Who? Are you talking about the OF, Mario Valenzuela? He's a minor league FA I believe, and a total non prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Acquiring RJ at the expense of JG, PK/C.Lee, and a high level prospect would cripple our offense. An offseason where we lose our 2 top offensive threats, but gain the most intimidating pitcher I've ever seen raises a lot of questions. Where will our offense come from? I suppose we'd be hopefull that guys like Crede and Harris will finally come into their own, and that Uribe and Rowand's seasons from last year were not flukes. I just don't think that Everett is an everyday player at this point of his career, and if we send C.Lee to AZ he'd be the frontrunner for left. You have to give something to get something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelatinoheat_30 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 This would be known as the miracle on 35th street! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Cynic alert No use cutting anyone off until everything is finalized Remember all those championships we won with Tom Seaver? Another HoF pitcher spending his twilight years on the Sox. As I recall, Seaver was the best pitcher on the Sox while we had him. It wasn't his fault the rest of the guys went into the toilet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Who? Are you talking about the OF, Mario Valenzuela? He's a minor league FA I believe, and a total non prospect. If he's an FA, then nevermind, but as a throw-in, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoArow33 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Give me RANDY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 12, 2004 Author Share Posted December 12, 2004 Honestly I only want RJ is JR is willing to open up the payroll and pay for a consistant offense as well. I don't care who it is. I don't want Jason Grilli anywhere near this team. ...and god forbid RJ got hurt, then our rotation becomes: Buherle Garcia Contreas Diaz Grilli/Some other minor league after Grilli goes 0-10 to start the year... :puke RJ IS TOO BIG OF A DAMN GAMBLE WITH OUR PAYROLL. JR WILL NOT OPEN UP THE PAYROLL! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIKE WHAT IF CONTRERAS GETS HURT, AND GARCIA HAS A EAR DRUM PROBLEM AGAIN, OR BUEHRLE HAS A HUNTING ACCIDENT THEN OUR ROTATION WOULD LOOK LIKE: JOHNSON DIAZ GRILLI MUNOZ COTTS :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke and to counter with your JR "argument" White Sox | Room For Payroll Wiggle If Necessary - from www.KFFL.com Sat, 11 Dec 2004 23:54:49 -0800 According to The Chicago Tribune's Bob Foltman, the Chicago White Sox are approaching their $72 million budget for next season, but White Sox general manager Kenny Williams did not rule out owner Jerry Reinsdorf raising the payroll if the situation were right. "The one thing I know about Reinsdorf is he wants to win," Williams said. "If there is something very attractive to us to a degree that it obviously makes sense to us, I know that if I take it to him, he will consider it." What were you saying again? :rolly :rolly :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 12, 2004 Author Share Posted December 12, 2004 OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIKE WHAT IF CONTRERAS GETS HURT, AND GARCIA HAS A EAR DRUM PROBLEM AGAIN, OR BUEHRLE HAS A HUNTING ACCIDENT THEN OUR ROTATION WOULD LOOK LIKE: JOHNSON DIAZ GRILLI MUNOZ COTTS :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke and to counter with your JR "argument" What were you saying again? :rolly :rolly :rolly Jeckle, you must have posted your argument in another thread, because I don't see a response. I know you don't want to give up Garland or Anderson, but could you just admit that getting RJ would be an upgrade over our current staff and team, and that it's possible for the Sox to afford him because Randy is the type of player that will put asses in the seats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 My thoughts... -Figures dorf started this thread -Anything is possible, don't rule this trade out -Randy to the Chicago White Sox would be a PR explosion. It would be fantastic for the city, and, it could have a Pudge-to-the-Tigers free agent ripple affect for the future. -Also sounds like a great way to drive up the market after it seemed that teams died down on RJ. Could be a ploy. -Anyway you cut it, this has to be good news. Randy Johnson to the Sox, c'mon folks. I'd be willing to sacrifice some of the future for a chance with Randy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I just think it's funny how if a Randy trade went down, some people here would call KW the worst GM in all of baseball while I would consider him one of the best. Talk about opposite ends of the spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Could someone give me three reasons why Randy Johnson would want to finish his career in Chicago? Money? Championship? Hometown boy? He has his pick of teams. What would move Chicago into prime consideration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Could someone give me three reasons why Randy Johnson would want to finish his career in Chicago? Money? Championship? Hometown boy? He has his pick of teams. What would move Chicago into prime consideration? Its.Not.Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Could someone give me three reasons why Randy Johnson would want to finish his career in Chicago? Money? Championship? Hometown boy? He has his pick of teams. What would move Chicago into prime consideration? Simple, he's one of the very few options that gets him out of Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 It gets him out of Arizona, and KW could ship him off to the Yankees at or near the deadline if the Sox are not in contention without asking for the unreasonable package the DBacks are asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 13, 2004 Author Share Posted December 13, 2004 Could someone give me three reasons why Randy Johnson would want to finish his career in Chicago? Money? Championship? Hometown boy? He has his pick of teams. What would move Chicago into prime consideration? Who says he has to finish up here? I would mind having him for one season because I am confident that a rotation of Johnson, Buehrle, Garcia, Contreras and yo momma could get us to the playoffs, and that was BEFORE the Hermanson and Dye signings. Johnson wants to get to 300 wins, He owns just about every team in the Central, and he would get to face the young hitters on the Royals, Indians, and Tigers each 4-5 times a year. He might want to come back to the AL because he doesn't have to worry about batting anymore which would limit his team selection to the Yanks, Sox, and Angels. His relationship with Reinsdorf. I don't know how it is, but the two are neighbors in Arizona. Please come to the Sox RJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Please come to the Sox RJ. Why were you talking down this trade a few days ago? Just emotions flying after the dissapointment of hearing he wasn't coming to Chicago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 13, 2004 Author Share Posted December 13, 2004 Why were you talking down this trade a few days ago? Just emotions flying after the dissapointment of hearing he wasn't coming to Chicago? Because I was mislead into believing he wouldn't come here at all costs. I want Vazquez or Johnson for next season. f*** Garland. :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 guys get a grip. You can talk all about it happening. Until it does just stop. I mean we been talking 4 weeks now about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 guys get a grip. You can talk all about it happening. Until it does just stop. I mean we been talking 4 weeks now about this. What is the point of this message board then if we do not speculate and talk about rumors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 13, 2004 Author Share Posted December 13, 2004 guys get a grip. You can talk all about it happening. Until it does just stop. I mean we been talking 4 weeks now about this. Yeah, it's not like we're talking about acquiring a Cy Young winner, or one of the greatest left handers of all time. :rolly Getting Johnson would be a great PR move for the Sox and perhaps their biggest acquisition since Albert Belle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Getting Johnson would be a great PR move for the Sox and perhaps their biggest acquisition since Albert Belle. The ghost of Christmas Past comes to visit . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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