SoxFan562004 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Gammons said if Dodgers could get Lily and Rios from Toronto, that would get Hudson... I would have to imagine Lee and Garland would be comprable to that deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Boston Herald's top story is about a proposed Red Sox-Mets deal. Manny and Dougie Mientkiewicz for Cliff Floyd and a prospect salary dump of Manny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 So many posts...so little news. I think we oughta' just wait for the Podsednik deal to go down. I just have to think the Podsednik move would be the move to get the overall "plan" in motion. Lee going to the Brewers would free up the salary to take on one of those front-line pitchers. Who knows guys...this could be a great move when it is all said and done. As dense as Kenny is, I really don't think he'd trade Caballo and only get Podsednik in return. C'mon. He's still the general manager for a professional ball club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 As dense as Kenny is, I really don't think he'd trade Caballo and only get Podsednik in return. C'mon. He's still the general manager for a professional ball club. yeah, I agree... if that goes down then he would have to announce another move right away using the salary he dumped... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox89 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I looked at ginters stats. this anit so bad we get: 19 homers (ginter 70 steals (pod) We give: 30 homers (lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Over 3,000 views... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 As dense as Kenny is, I really don't think he'd trade Caballo and only get Podsednik in return. C'mon. He's still the general manager for a professional ball club. He's also very good at evaluating talent. I have faith in whoever may come along with Pod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I looked at ginters stats. this anit so bad we get: 19 homers (ginter 70 steals (pod) We give: 30 homers (lee I made a post about this in the other thread. If Ginter had as many at-bats as Carlos, he would've had 29 home runs (extrapolation). That's not playing in US Cellular Field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I looked at ginters stats. this anit so bad we get: 19 homers (ginter 70 steals (pod) We give: 30 homers (lee I think Spod hit 12 HR's last year as well. He needs to get back to what he did in 2003, which was hit singles up the middle adn steal a base. Lots more OF's will be available after 12/20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Didn't Wilder have a major role in building the Milwaukee farm system and acquire Pod a couple of years back. He would have a tremendous amount of knowlege of some talent that is getting close to ML ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 This begs the question... Will Paul Konerko be a member of the 2005 White Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Over 3,000 views... 144 viewing the site, 90 in this thread alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Podsednik will be 29 next season. He's had ONE good year in the major leagues, one below average year (other than steals) He's not going to improve much, if any. There's a reason the guy didn't get to the big leagues until he was 27. He is what he is -- an average hitter with marginal power who IS not extraordinarily skilled at getting on base. An on-base percentage of .313 blows for a leadoff guy. And he's had five assists each of the last two seasons. Ginter will also be 29 next season. He's a better power hitter, but looks like a guy who really doesn't have a position because they bounce him around. Sorry, but Carlos Lee is worth much more than these two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 This begs the question... Will Paul Konerko be a member of the 2005 White Sox? Nope. i see him and Lee gone b4 years end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 One thing Gammons said interested me and that was Rios and Lilly for Hudson. Personally I am surprised that Beane wants Lilly back considering he unloaded him in the first place (don't remember if he was a FA or dealt, but I think he was dealt). Anyway remember Sox are talking with the Jays and it makes sense that they could get Rios in a deal involving Konerko. Doubt they could get Lillly too, but Batista and instead of Lilly give them Garland or Batista and maybe something else (from the Sox) and they could be interested. I'm in the school library right now. I swear if they pull off a deal and then announce another move (say Huddy or RJ or whoever) I think I'll be getting dragged out of the library for screaming so loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Why would Milwaukee want Lee? Jenkins is their LF. I could see Garland being moved for Podsednik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Podsednik will be 29 next season. He's had ONE good year in the major leagues, one below average year (other than steals) He's not going to improve much, if any. There's a reason the guy didn't get to the big leagues until he was 27. He is what he is -- an average hitter with marginal power who IS not extraordinarily skilled at getting on base. An on-base percentage of .313 blows for a leadoff guy. And he's had five assists each of the last two seasons. Ginter will also be 29 next season. He's a better power hitter, but looks like a guy who really doesn't have a position because they bounce him around. Sorry, but Carlos Lee is worth much more than these two. I agree, but if they get a very good prospect or something else quite valuable out of Mil then it could make things interesting, especially when you see what the Sox do with the payroll flexibility. Ie who would they sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 144 viewing the site, 90 in this thread alone Yeah, what the f*** are the other 54 looking at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 My only fear with this trade... Trading Carlos may take us out of the Randy Johnson hunt. I thought Carlos Lee and Jon Garland would be the basis of a deal with Arizona. If Carlos is dished, I'm scared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 ESPN Radio Hint to Michael Irvin: Take the damn marbles out of your mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 is this a record number of people viewing one thead at one time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 ESPN Radio Hint to Michael Irvin: Take the damn marbles out of your mouth. Those aren't marbles...they're rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Sorry, but Carlos Lee is worth much more than these two. No s***. That's why he makes almost four times what they do combined. Do you not understand that there could be alterior motives in this trade? With extra money we have some flexibility in the FA market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 No s***. That's why he makes almost four times what they do combined. Do you not understand that there could be alterior motives in this trade? With extra money we have some flexibility in the FA market. to sign who? Who is still out there other than Clement that is any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 My only fear with this trade... Trading Carlos may take us out of the Randy Johnson hunt. I thought Carlos Lee and Jon Garland would be the basis of a deal with Arizona. If Carlos is dished, I'm scared. Turns out they want Garcia or Buehrle as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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