qwerty Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Didn't Dye foul a ball off his leg (breaking his leg). Yes, i think it was in the playoffs, but i am not sure, maybe someone else remembers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 When did i say i know everything? I don't think i have ever implied that either. Going by podsednik's minor league numbers ( which he was in for nine years) it just does not look very promising. One shouldn't predict the future. I think it'd be okay to say what you think if SPod didn't have a year like 2003, but really, no one knows what he will give us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 give me walks and sb's! just get on base. if u can then im happy. just please do not be jose valentin and have tons of strikeouts. can someone tell me how many strikeouts pods had last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 One shouldn't predict the future. I think it'd be okay to say what you think if SPod didn't have a year like 2003, but really, no one knows what he will give us. If he was say a career .280-.300 something hitter in the minors that always had a a good obp i would say his future looked bright. But he was never very good in the minors (.265 hitter, with not a very high obp) is that something to be very excited about just because he stole 70 bases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 give me walks and sb's! just get on base. if u can then im happy. just please do not be jose valentin and have tons of strikeouts. can someone tell me how many strikeouts pods had last year? 105. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 "Carlos Lee fills our biggest offseason need," Brewers general manager Bob Melvin said. "He is the perfect fit with Geoff Jenkins and Lyle Overbay in the middle of our order. We knew that we needed to give up two good players to make this transaction happen." doesn't sound too promising as far as the PTBNL goes. i gotta say, unless we use that cash for something good, this trade sucks ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 "Carlos Lee fills our biggest offseason need," Brewers general manager Bob Melvin said. "He is the perfect fit with Geoff Jenkins and Lyle Overbay in the middle of our order. We knew that we needed to give up two good players to make this transaction happen." doesn't sound too promising as far as the PTBNL goes. i gotta say, unless we use that cash for something good, this trade sucks ass. That and the fact KW said on WGN tonight that they make hold the money saved for mid season acquisitions (I still think they will acquire somebody) would make this potentially KW's worst deal. KW should have his job on the line with this deal. If it works out, sign him to an extension. If it blows up, show him the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I think that comment goest along with the banner at the top of the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 105. hell no. this isnt such a good trade after all. pods is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 In this day and age in professional sports a trade that gives you $6 million spending money is freakin' huge!!! I guess then trading Thomas, Crede, Buerhle, and Garcia for a sack of crap would be the biggest trade of all time. Look at all that cash. The last time I saw cash contribute on the field it was Norm Cash with the Tigers. The thing with cash is it doesn't have to come at the expense of talent on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I guess then trading Thomas, Crede, Buerhle, and Garcia for a sack of crap would be the biggest trade of all time. Look at all that cash. The last time I saw cash contribute on the field it was Norm Cash with the Tigers. The thing with cash is it doesn't have to come at the expense of talent on the team. Don Money was pretty good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I guess then trading Thomas, Crede, Buerhle, and Garcia for a sack of crap would be the biggest trade of all time. Look at all that cash. The last time I saw cash contribute on the field it was Norm Cash with the Tigers. The thing with cash is it doesn't have to come at the expense of talent on the team. If you turned around and signed Beltran, Renteria, and Pavano with sack of cash it would be one hell of a deal. I know the point is hard to understand but the White Sox are going to use the money to sign a player they otherwise couldn't afford. The financial relief is the most important part of this trade. It's not rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 So, in other news, my new sig freaking owns. It'll help Spod like the Ben Davis one worked its magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 If you turned around and signed Beltran, Renteria, and Pavano with sack of cash it would be one hell of a deal. I know the point is hard to understand but the White Sox are going to use the money to sign a player they otherwise couldn't afford. The financial relief is the most important part of this trade. It's not rocket science. Sorry, I don't have insider information that tells me what they are going to use the money for. It could be for another Robbie Alomar. If they hold off until the mid season, it may be too late. You cannot win a division in May, but you can lose one. You might hear attendance is down and they will not spend all of it on a mid season pick up. I've been a Sox fan for 30 years. I have almost no enthusiasm for money. I have enthusiasm for players on the roster, healthy, who can play. Potential doesn't feed the bulldog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Sorry, I don't have insider information that tells me what they are going to use the money for. It could be for another Robbie Alomar. If they hold off until the mid season, it may be too late. You cannot win a division in May, but you can lose one. You might hear attendance is down and they will not spend all of it on a mid season pick up. I've been a Sox fan for 30 years. I have almost no enthusiasm for money. I have enthusiasm for players on the roster, healthy, who can play. Potential doesn't feed the bulldog. Agree. I can see them needing to feel financially flexible for the July trade deadline, but I wish they'd place more emphasis on having a great team out of the chute by April 1. Sox fans are not stupid and I think there would be enough added attendance to factor in a midseason acquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 This whole thing is like watching a movie with a MASSIVE cliffhanger. We all feel KW isn't done yet, but it may take a few days for anything to happen. Sheesh, butterflies are roaming in my stomach, what will the next day bring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 When will there be a press conference with SPod wearing his new jersey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 they've just announced at a press conference that they're using the money to put new green seats in and to make other refurbishments around the stadium. The brewers are offering to sign todd richie and bring him back as the ptbnl. "he'd help with the renovations." said Kenny Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babybearhater Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I guess then trading Thomas, Crede, Buerhle, and Garcia for a sack of crap would be the biggest trade of all time. Look at all that cash. The last time I saw cash contribute on the field it was Norm Cash with the Tigers. The thing with cash is it doesn't have to come at the expense of talent on the team. spoken like a true person who doesnt have any cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Sorry, I don't have insider information that tells me what they are going to use the money for. It could be for another Robbie Alomar. If they hold off until the mid season, it may be too late. You cannot win a division in May, but you can lose one. You might hear attendance is down and they will not spend all of it on a mid season pick up. I've been a Sox fan for 30 years. I have almost no enthusiasm for money. I have enthusiasm for players on the roster, healthy, who can play. Potential doesn't feed the bulldog. My point is that the real PTBNL is in the $6 million. Of course, it could end up someone none of us is pleased with. I don't have any more information than anyone else here does. The point is the trade includes two PTBNL and its important to analyze the trade with that in mind. In other words, KW would not have traded CLee for just Viscaino and Pods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) -- Carlos Lee was traded from the Chicago White Sox to the Milwaukee Brewers on Monday for outfielder Scott Podsednik, reliever Luis Vizcaino and a player to be named. Lee, who batted .305 with 31 homers and 99 RBIs last season, gives the Brewers a right-handed slugger in the middle of the lineup to complement Geoff Jenkins and Lyle Overbay, both left-handed hitters. "A profile like Carlos' was our biggest need and we felt we accomplished that -- but it didn't come cheaply," Milwaukee general manager Doug Melvin said. The speedy Podsednik is a proven leadoff man. Though he slumped at the plate this year, he led the major leagues with 70 stolen bases. After finishing runner-up for NL Rookie of the Year in 2003, Podsednik hit .244 with 12 homers, 85 runs and 39 RBIs last season. "His swing got a little long and little bigger. He kinda went away from his strengths," White Sox general manager Ken Williams said. "We're looking for something in between last year and the year before. That's plenty good enough for us. One positive is his speed, his ability to create havoc on the bases. " Vizcaino, a right-hander, went 4-4 with a 3.75 ERA and one save in 73 relief appearances. Jenkins could shift to right field to make room in left for Lee, who did not commit an error last season. "It makes us maybe even a little better defensively in the outfield," Melvin said. "I'm confident that Brady Clark can play center field for us and then Dave Krynzel at some point. Brady had an on-base percentage of something like .420 after the All-Star break, which was one of the highest in the National League." Lee, 28, had at least 24 homers and 80 RBIs in each of the past five seasons -- and he can run, too. He had 31 homers and 113 RBIs in 2003, but he became expendable when Chicago signed right fielder Jermaine Dye last week. Lee will make $8 million next year, and his contract contains an $8.5 million club option for 2006 with a $500,000 buyout. "People will probably be shocked that we spent the money," Melvin said. "I don't know that we have a lot left to spend, but this does send the right message to our fans." Podsednik is guaranteed $550,000 next season and $1.9 million in 2006. Vizcaino is eligible for salary arbitration and figures to make about $2 million next year. Williams said the White Sox's formula wasn't working, so they had to make a change. "What we were about the last few years, we got caught in sort of an all-or-nothing type zone. Our run production was misleading. We scored in bunches," Williams said. "One day we'd look like world beaters and then for three days, we'd fall into a pattern where we couldn't score any runs. ... We wanted to find people who can create their own runs, create scoring opportunities," he added. "We looked at it in this fashion: remaking the club like we said we would with speed a dimension; we're upgrading the defense and upgrading the bullpen and we have financial flexibility to add another player." After finishing last in the NL Central, the Brewers were busy at the winter meetings, which concluded Monday. They traded All-Star closer Dan Kolb to Atlanta on Saturday for prized pitching prospect Jose Capellan and minor league right-hander Alex Zumwalt. "It makes us a little thin on the back end of our bullpen," Melvin said. "Now we have to go out and find some relief pitching. We have to have the courage to find someone to close and just give him the ball." theres the player be named later !!!!!!!!!! Zumwalt was acquired Monday as the player to be named in that deal, then assigned to Triple-A. He was 3-7 with a 5.09 ERA in 46 relief appearances at Double-A Greenville last season. The White Sox also placed right-hander Dan Wright on unconditional release waivers. Wright went 0-4 with an 8.15 ERA in four starts last season before being demoted to Triple-A Charlotte on May 1. He had reconstructive elbow surgery on June 1 and isn't expected to be ready to pitch again until next December. Wright is 20-26 with a 5.65 ERA in 70 career games, all but six of them starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 When will there be a press conference with SPod wearing his new jersey? He's reportedly in Japan, and has no idea of the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 theres the player be named later !!!!!!!!!! Zumwalt was acquired Monday as the player to be named in that deal, then assigned to Triple-A. He was 3-7 with a 5.09 ERA in 46 relief appearances at Double-A Greenville last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 spoken like a true person who doesnt have any cash Oh ouch, that hurts. I have no cash. boo hoo. LMAO at such a moron. Perhaps I should explain. I forget we have little kids on the site. Steinbrenner doesn't have a pile of cash because he traded great players and kept freeing money until he had $$$$ to spend. Attendance, royalties, and other revenue streams, including an owner with deep pockets, can get you the cash. Cash in the bank does nothing to help the team win now. I agree that waiting to judge until the trade is finalized, with all players involved, is the only fair thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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