Another bonus to the Spod trade??

[Spiegle]

Hey,

When I herd of the spod trade, like everyone else i was a little heart broken CLee is gone, but I got over it pretty quick... I figure we can afford to lose the power.

 

Anyways, Just a thought i had... is anyone else kinda excited that willie is actually going to be able to see someone that KNOWS how to steal bases work on a regular bases? I think Spod can teach Willie something about the "art" he seems to lack. With Willies speed he can easily steal 50 a year... maybe all he needs is someone to show him how its done.

 

If that does indeed pan out, and Willie gets a little better with his bat (wich i feel like he slowly has over the time i have seen him) we could possibly have the top two in our order stealing bases left and right... followed by the boppers Dye, Thomas, and Konerko to nock those 2 in... thats a formula for some serious runs.

 

 

Anyways... that was just a thought i had, I hope it works out and Spod can show Willie the are of stealing.... Go Willie!

[KWs OK for Me]

Another bonus of the SPod trade might be the fact that SPod is getting the hell out of Miller Park. Podsednik was a .275 hitter away from our northern neighbor and a .213 in Miller Park. I think a little change of scenery could be good for him and us. Just a thought, with the change of scenery and better hitters behind him I don't see why he can't return to being ~.300 hitter. Imagine how many bases he'd steal than!

[qwerty]

Another bonus of the SPod trade might be the fact that SPod is getting the hell out of Miller Park.  Podsednik was a .275 hitter away from our northern neighbor and a .213 in Miller Park.  I think a little change of scenery could be good for him and us.  Just a thought, with the change of scenery and better hitters behind him I don't see why he can't return to being ~.300 hitter.  Imagine how many bases he'd steal than!

Welcome to soxtalk.

[MinnesotaSoxFan]

Another bonus of the SPod trade might be the fact that SPod is getting the hell out of Miller Park.  Podsednik was a .275 hitter away from our northern neighbor and a .213 in Miller Park.  I think a little change of scenery could be good for him and us.  Just a thought, with the change of scenery and better hitters behind him I don't see why he can't return to being ~.300 hitter.  Imagine how many bases he'd steal than!

Welcome to soxtalk!

 

Good name to start off.

 

I'm not a big Willie Harris fan, but as long as he got speed...

He reminds me of Lance Johnson...

 

Go Wee Willie!

[The Bones]

Another bonus of the SPod trade might be the fact that SPod is getting the hell out of Miller Park.  Podsednik was a .275 hitter away from our northern neighbor and a .213 in Miller Park.  I think a little change of scenery could be good for him and us.  Just a thought, with the change of scenery and better hitters behind him I don't see why he can't return to being ~.300 hitter.  Imagine how many bases he'd steal than!

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Now, I hope both of you are right about SPod and Wee Willie improving this year. But my concern is the hitters behind our "on-base" guys. We seem to have trouble hitting with men on base and RISP. I don't know the stats but I remember seeing a lot of men left on base for the Sox in the box scores last year. It's great to have people get on base and get in scoring position but our hitters need to step up and bring them home any way possible, not just swing for the long ball. Hopefully, Ozzie can succeed in getting this team to play "Ozzieball" in 2005.

[KWs OK for Me]

Funny thing is that the White Sox were actually able to hit with RISP. They were second in the league in BA with RISP behind only . . . you guessed it the World Champion Red Sox. The White Sox batted .291 with RISP and if they are able to keep that up with there new top of the order I foresee good things from the South Side. Uribe, Rowand, Thomas, Konerko all excelled with RISP. If this continues to be the case the Sox will produce more runs on a consistent basis. And with the addition of SPod and Tim Raines we will certainly be running the bases paths better and more. So they will have more oppurtunity to hit with RISP. I'm quite excited about this change in the team. Girls dig the long ball, but it don't win championships!

[DBAHO]

I'm still interested to see what happens with Harris. He very well could still be trade bait, and go into a deal for someone like Tim Hudson still perhaps. I still think we'll get a guy to compete with him, the general theory this time last night seemed to think Keith Ginter would be that guy. Now we'll probably wait until December 20 to see if Alex Cora is non - tendered or not, and if he is, the Sox will probably be all over him.

[fathom]

I wouldn't be so sure about hitting more with RISP. We're not exactly acquiring a lot of players with good OBP. Especially with Frank out for a while likely, we have a very below average team at reaching base.

[qwerty]

Funny thing is that the White Sox were actually able to hit with RISP.  They were second in the league in BA with RISP behind only . . .  you guessed it the World Champion Red Sox.  The White Sox batted .291 with RISP and if they are able to keep that up with there new top of the order I foresee good things from the South Side.  Uribe, Rowand, Thomas, Konerko all excelled with RISP.  If this continues to be the case the Sox will produce more runs on a consistent basis.  And with the addition of SPod and Tim Raines we will certainly be running the bases paths better and more.  So they will have more oppurtunity to hit with RISP.  I'm quite excited about this change in the team.  Girls dig the long ball, but it don't win championships!

Problem is, they were one of the worst if not the worst at getting guys in scoring position. Which means they are also a very low obp team.

[YASNY]

Problem is, they were one of the worst if not the worst at getting guys in scoring position. Which means they are also a very low obp team.

Which is why they needed to retool this team. I don't know if Scotty Pod will get on base any more often, but he will get in scoring position when he does.

[DBAHO]

Carlos Lee was hitting .299 with RISP in 2004, so there's no doubt we'll definitely miss him in the middle of the lineup.

Some other stats to consider,

Scott Podsednik had a .275 AVG on BABIP (Batting Average on Balls In Play) which was the lowest in the Brewers lineup and that means the percent of batted balls that fall in for hits, not including home runs. He only had a LD% of .160 which is the batter's line drives, expressed as a percent of his total batted balls that resulted in an at bat (e.g., foul outs, home runs and all fairly hit balls).

Podsednik also had a RC/G of 4 which is runs created per 27 outs.

[fathom]

I think it's safe to say that if Podsednik continues to play like the way he did last year, the Sox will be awful next year, and KW will get fired. Our only hope is that he brings a new approach this year, and reacts well to what others tell him. IIRC is that he didn't exactly take well to Brewers mgmt telling him to change stuff.

[Yossarian]

I think it's safe to say that if Podsednik continues to play like the way he did last year, the Sox will be awful next year, and KW will get fired.  Our only hope is that he brings a new approach this year, and reacts well to what others tell him.  IIRC is that he didn't exactly take well to Brewers mgmt telling him to change stuff.

The Sox probably will be awful next year. This is a terrible trade and KW won't get fired, or at least I doubt it. He is JRs guy. By the way, I'm curious. Why the hell was KW running down the hall to ask permission to make this trade? Or did I hear wrong?

[heavyduty]

Does anyone else think that Pod's numbers will go up just because he is out of that division that has really good pitching ?(other than the Reds of course), or is this just a stupid opinion on my part?

[hi8is]

i think that we could see a huge jump in Harris's production because of Spod.... i mean, harris has the stuff to do it... with rock rains and Spod... he is going to have a lot to learn, and hopefully he will use it to become another speed demon

[hi8is]

oh, and BTW: i dont give a rats ass if SPod hits .250 here as long as we go out and get a good FA starter that moves contreras to #4 and garland to #5

 

[CanOfCorn]

Does anyone else think that Pod's numbers will go up just because he is out of that division that has really good pitching ?(other than the Reds of course), or is this just a stupid opinion on my part?

I agree.

 

Also, and Hawk always seems to talk about this, but what was the Sox RISP with 2 outs last year? This is what they were so good at in 2000 when the won the division. They could create the runs with two outs. If Harris, Rowand (assuming he bats second), and Pods could get on base, by bunting, hbp, walk, whatever, this team will have no problem scoring runs.

[Rowand44]

I'm curious. Why the hell was KW running down the hall to ask permission to make this trade? Or did I hear wrong?

The owners have to sign off on any acquisition made, I believe.

[SoIL]

I tend to think Posednik's numbers will fall somewhere between his first two seasons. Which would be about a .275 BA. This isn't great but may do the job. If the statements that he got a little homer happy and the "sophmore slump" theory are true, we should get a better performance. I think moving from Miller Park to the Cell will also help. We'll just have to wait and see.

I agree with the thought that we won nothing as a power team and changes needed to be made. Those changes definitely bring uncertainty, but all changes do. Gotta break some eggs to make an omelet.

[hi8is]

not to be an ass of anything floks... but there are a bunch of other threads discussing the ability of Spod... weither you like the trade... etc...

 

if im not mistaken, this thread is sposed to be about harris in relation to Spod

 

sorry, im an asshole.. i know it

[SoIL]

not to be an ass of anything floks... but there are a bunch of other threads discussing the ability of Spod... weither you like the trade... etc...

 

if im not mistaken, this thread is sposed to be about harris in relation to Spod

 

sorry, im an asshole.. i know it 

Well in that case, I think Posednik could be a help to Harris. Willies' problem seems to be with his confidence. As stated earlier, he's got the tools. It would be great if Raines and Spod could help in that department.

[Al Lopez Ghost (old)]

Well in that case, I think Posednik could be a help to Harris. Willies' problem seems to be with his confidence. As stated earlier, he's got the tools. It would be great if Raines and Spod could help in that department.

IMO Harris lacks baseball instincts. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think Willie can be "taught" how to steal second. Don't get me wrong, some people can be taught how to get better reads and jumps - but Willie looks lost, unconfident, and I don't have high hopes that anyone other than Willie can get into his head.

[shakes]

I agree, Willie looks more like a great athlete than a great baseball player.

[SoIL]

IMO Harris lacks baseball instincts. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think Willie can be "taught" how to steal second. Don't get me wrong, some people can be taught how to get better reads and jumps - but Willie looks lost, unconfident, and I don't have high hopes that anyone other than Willie can get into his head.

You may be exactly right. Do you think even if doesn't become a good/great base stealer, but can get on base at a decent rate, he can be a solid ballplayer? His defense is very good and he has the speed to score from first.

[bulokis]

Another bonus on the trade, Sox will save money on fireworks during a homerun.