Mr. Showtime Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I was watching ESPNnews about 20 minutes ago, and their fantasy baseball expert was talking about the deal and he said, "I've heard he may not even land in Chicago, he may go to Arizona." I'm guessing he's basing this on whatever new 15 player 3 team deal ESPN reports that lands RJ in NY. I couldn't even fathom the Sox moving him. Just reporting another "rumor" though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 can't imagine Kenny Stanford trading a grinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjam44 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I don't think that would happen KW seems real into Spod there is no way he would be traded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I'm really starting to like the idea of having spod at the top of the order, so I hope we hang onto him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 He could be the first player in franchise history to have the fans pissed when he came and pissed he left, and never play a single inning in a Sox uniform. I am promising myself to judge all trades at once, when the team leaves Spring Training. Until then, it is all a process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Pods is staying here. Kenny is targeting speed and defense; therefore, I can't imagine a grinder like Pods being a move to trigger another move. I read some thread about a 4 team deal where we'd give up Pauly and Garland for AJ Burnett in return. DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I don't think Spod is going anywhere. Kenny seems pretty excited with the move and I can't figure they are going to deal him elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I was watching ESPNnews about 20 minutes ago, and their fantasy baseball expert was talking about the deal and he said, "I've heard he may not even land in Chicago, he may go to Arizona." I'm guessing he's basing this on whatever new 15 player 3 team deal ESPN reports that lands RJ in NY. I couldn't even fathom the Sox moving him. Just reporting another "rumor" though. What's the new rumor being reported????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 He could be the first player in franchise history to have the fans pissed when he came and pissed he left, and never play a single inning in a Sox uniform. I am promising myself to judge all trades at once, when the team leaves Spring Training. Until then, it is all a process. this was great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 This is interesting. KW did say that Vizcaino was the "key" to the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Suppoedly Billy Beane love Pod as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Suppoedly Billy Beane love Pod as well. Well if Pod got the Sox Huddy then I'd be all for it. I still don't see him going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagar69 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 rumor on WSI that from a guy who supposedly konw someone in the bay area. Spod and garland for hudson and kotsay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 rumor on WSI that from a guy who supposedly konw someone in the bay area. Spod and garland for hudson and kotsay Haha, if the Sox made that deal I'd scream in excitement. Kotsay as good as Pod and Huddy way better then Garland. Don't think there is any truth to that. Maybe it could be a starting package, but the Sox would be giving up some other stuff as well. Although I guess it gives Beane some financial flexibility. But I'd have to think Anderson and another prospect would be a part of it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 rumor on WSI that from a guy who supposedly konw someone in the bay area. Spod and garland for hudson and kotsay deal sounds good to me, how old is kotsay? and what are his numbers though? i hear hes alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Haha, if the Sox made that deal I'd scream in excitement. Kotsay as good as Pod and Huddy way better then Garland. Don't think there is any truth to that. Maybe it could be a starting package, but the Sox would be giving up some other stuff as well. Although I guess it gives Beane some financial flexibility. But I'd have to think Anderson and another prospect would be a part of it as well. Not necessarily, Oakland is always in favor of reducing payroll, which this move certainly does. Maybe a throw in or someone, but not Anderson/Sweeney/ or McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Haha, if the Sox made that deal I'd scream in excitement. Kotsay as good as Pod and Huddy way better then Garland. Don't think there is any truth to that. Maybe it could be a starting package, but the Sox would be giving up some other stuff as well. Although I guess it gives Beane some financial flexibility. But I'd have to think Anderson and another prospect would be a part of it as well. Even if anderson and another prospect was included i would do this in a heart beat. We would need to lock up hudson though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 On a side note, doesn't it seem like Pods is the exact opposite of what Billy likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 On a side note, doesn't it seem like Pods is the exact opposite of what Billy likes. Speedy, good defender, and cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Speedy, good defender, and cheap. Where is the obp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Even if anderson and another prospect was included i would do this in a heart beat. We would need to lock up hudson though. Agreed. I think Kotsay doesn't give the Sox as much speed, but he's a good top of the order hitter who would hit 20 Hr's at US cell. He also plays good defense and would be my definition of a grinder. Not positive on this, but I think him and Rowand were teammates at Fullerton. I know Kotsay was all world at Fullerton, but not sure if Rowand was there during Kotsay's tenure. Lets think about the payroll ramification. I think Kotsay makes like 4-5 mill, Huddy at 6-7 so thats 12 mill maybe. Sox move roughly 4 mill which would mean the 8 mill they had is spent. But overall they still fill there outfield and get a top of the order guy and get a top of the rotation guy while also strengthening the pen in Pod. Of course I'd love to find a way to add a catcher. Plus I'm a huge Kotsay fan. .314 AVG, .370 OBP, 37 2B, 15 HR, 63 RBI, 55 BB, 70 K, 8 SB; Made 5.5 mill in 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 On a side note, doesn't it seem like Pods is the exact opposite of what Billy likes. Exactly what I was thinking, this sounds like total bs. He could do better for Hudson alone (arbitration-eligible Garland doesn't give you that much salary relief, nor many years), and I can't believe teams would avoid Kotsay for his $7 mil (?) salary. He had a monster year last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 rumor on WSI that from a guy who supposedly konw someone in the bay area. Spod and garland for hudson and kotsay Its BS. Pods is not BB's type of player. The guy at wsi says its speculation by his cousin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 That report is total bulls***. First, Beane is in love with Kotsay. It would take a lot more than Scott f***ing Podsednik to aquire him. Second, Podsednik is not even Beane's type of player. Third, do you really think we'd get Tim Hudson and Mark Kotsay for Jon s***head Garland and Scoot Podsednik. I sure as hell don't. If Kenny pulls that deal off he's GM of the year, WAIT, GM of the decade. I'll set up a webcam and eat my hat if that deal goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 if this trade goes down....ill go find george washington, dig him outta his grave, and eat an apple outta his asshole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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