soxfan420 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 RF 2.417 ZR .904 i am so excited its goining to lower our pitchers era's alot i have a feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 AL avg LF -- .281/.347/.453 -- Podsednik would be lucky to even approach average AL avg CF -- .281/.338/.437 -- Rowand is much better than average, but could regress AL avg RF -- .276/.344/.440 -- Dye should be about average. That looks like an average OF at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 AL avg LF -- .281/.347/.453 -- Podsednik would be lucky to even approach average AL avg CF -- .281/.338/.437 -- Rowand is much better than average, but could regress AL avg RF -- .276/.344/.440 -- Dye should be about average. That looks like an average OF at best. i was lookingat the deffense but offense is ok too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 AL avg LF -- .281/.347/.453 -- Podsednik would be lucky to even approach average AL avg CF -- .281/.338/.437 -- Rowand is much better than average, but could regress AL avg RF -- .276/.344/.440 -- Dye should be about average. That looks like an average OF at best. offense wins you fans Defense wins you titles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 offense wins you fans Defense wins you titles... Does it really? Let's look at the Red Sox. Two very poor fielders in Bellhorn and Manny. One average fielder in Millar. Then, average to above average fielders in Cabrera, Mueller, Damon, and Nixon. IMHO, too much is made about defense. You pitch well and you hit well, then you'll be alright... The reason we haven't won the division the past couple years is because we've never had the right combo of both at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 There are always execptiosn to the norm.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 offense wins you fans Defense wins you titles... is that why we didnt break 2 mill fans last year with our offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Does it really? Let's look at the Red Sox. Two very poor fielders in Bellhorn and Manny. One average fielder in Millar. Then, average to above average fielders in Cabrera, Mueller, Damon, and Nixon. IMHO, too much is made about defense. You pitch well and you hit well, then you'll be alright... The reason we haven't won the division the past couple years is because we've never had the right combo of both at the same time. Manny played left and made a FEW big mistakes in the playoffs and Bellhorn played second. the rest of their defense was good. the nice thing about having a defense is that 99.9% of the time it is going to show up. an offense can get shutdown any day of the week, but a defense will make the plays every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 the key to attendance is winning! we proved it last year when we drew over 30,000 consistently when we were playing well. if e win our attendance will b crazy big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 is that why we didnt break 2 mill fans last year with our offense. You mean that offense that scored 10 runs one day then got shut out the next 2? I think a consistent offense would win you a lot more fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Then, average to above average fielders in Cabrera, Mueller, Damon, and Nixon. The guys I bolded are Gold Glove Quality. Also, you forgot to mention Mientikiewicz, who is another Gold Glover. On the whole, Boston's defense was very, very good last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 The guys I bolded are Gold Glove Quality. Also, you forgot to mention Mientikiewicz, who is another Gold Glover. On the whole, Boston's defense was very, very good last year. After they made the trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 AL avg LF -- .281/.347/.453 -- Podsednik would be lucky to even approach average AL avg CF -- .281/.338/.437 -- Rowand is much better than average, but could regress AL avg RF -- .276/.344/.440 -- Dye should be about average. That looks like an average OF at best. Can you figure it out if Dye is in LF, Podsednik in CF, and Rowand in RF? I would like to know that. I am not sure if they are planning to do it the way you specified or not, but I like it better this way. Plus I have heard them comparing Podsednik and his arm to Lance Johnson's. I would much rather see the better arms in the corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 You should put the s***tiest arm in LF. Dye's arm is not s***ty, therefore he goes to right. This is why Carlos played LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Can you figure it out if Dye is in LF, Podsednik in CF, and Rowand in RF? I would like to know that. I am not sure if they are planning to do it the way you specified or not, but I like it better this way. Plus I have heard them comparing Podsednik and his arm to Lance Johnson's. I would much rather see the better arms in the corners. That's like moving deck chairs on the titanic, either way the ship is going down. And like Willie said, you put your best defensive player in CF, the best arm you have in RF, and whatever warm body you have left in LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 That's like moving deck chairs on the titanic, either way the ship is going down. And like Willie said, you put your best defensive player in CF, the best arm you have in RF, and whatever warm body you have left in LF. Aren't we just a pot of negativity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Aren't we just a pot of negativity. I'm not conviced the whole sox team is going down, currently as they are, they'd be toast. But there's still time for kenny to make moves. Anyway you slice it though, we have a average at best outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 I'm not conviced the whole sox team is going down, currently as they are, they'd be toast. But there's still time for kenny to make moves. Anyway you slice it though, we have a average at best outfield. You know the stats way better than I do. I like the outfield as it stands. Of course I reserve the right to change my mind when I actually see it in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 You should put the s***tiest arm in LF. Dye's arm is not s***ty, therefore he goes to right. This is why Carlos played LF. Ok, I was unaware Dye had a great arm. I have seen Rowand a few times last year and it looked pretty good, that is why I had him moving to right. I am fine with Pods in left as it should have less wear and tear on his body and he will be able to steal more bases if that is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 I like how we shape up defensively. They should really help out our pitching staff as far as ERA and staying away from the big inning. Crede is good (great at times) with the glove, Uribe is servicable at SS, Harris has a very good glove, and Konerko can pick (he just can't run). Typically, our pitchers can field their position as well. On offense, quite simply, we will be weak. I believe Pods will struggle to get on base. When he is on, he will kick ass. Rowand should hit well, and will likely be our most consistent hitter. Konerko should be streaky as usual, but will be our power stud. Dye will put up decent numbers, nothing All-Star like. I don't see how it's reasonable to assume Thomas will be MVP-like because he hasn't swung a bat or seen pitching for a year. Everett blows, and he's fat. I hope Uribe can avoid a sophomore slump because he can be a huge spark plug in this line up. Crede should improve his average and keep his power numbers. Ben Davis/Jamie Burke will hit .250 combined. Finally, I expect Willie to hit better and get on-base more often. Pods and Rock should be excellent mentors for him on the basepaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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