fathom Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 The Daily Southtown today said that not only are Sox trying to sign Rowand to a multiyear deal, but they're also trying to sign Timo to a multiyear deal. Why in the hell would we give Timo a multiyear deal? If KW was smart, he'd just save the money on Timo and use it to fill other holes. We have plenty of outfield options in the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 The Daily Southtown today said that not only are Sox trying to sign Rowand to a multiyear deal, but they're also trying to sign Timo to a multiyear deal. Why in the hell would we give Timo a multiyear deal? If KW was smart, he'd just save the money on Timo and use it to fill other holes. We have plenty of outfield options in the organization. Shhhh....You'll wake Gene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 If KW was smart, he'd just save the money on Timo and use it to fill other holes. We have plenty of outfield options in the organization. But he hit .400 with runners in scoring position!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Long term deal for timo...... but why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I''m getting an idea of where that six million is going. Kenny finally knows what he's ben looking for on the free agent market.....ourselves! Anyways, I would take Lowe over Clement for the same price in a NY minute. I would take the best area prep pitcher over Grilli for the 5th spot too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Day six of my advocating the overpaying of Matt Clement stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 He is a Boras client. Poor Kenny has to actually do his job, and negotiate with a agent . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I don't know how many times I've told people win/loss records mean nothing when compared to REAL stats, like whip and ERA, not wins or losses. For the fools who won't stop judging pitchers on wins/losses, this is for you: I recall a upcoming "superstud" named Danny Wright (yes, the same Danny Wright the White Sox released for sucking), compiling a 14-12 record in 2002 with a 5.18ERA. By the rational that wins/losses mean something, that makes Dan Wright our new #3 starter AND better than Matt Clement, yet we released him. Now PLEASE, shut up about wins/losses, it makes you sound foolish. I witnessed Clement lose at LEAST two games last season 1-0. The only issue with Clement is, and if the Sox sign him be ready for this, he takes a REALLY long time to pitch. -y2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Day six of my advocating the overpaying of Matt Clement stance. Dude you rock, SAY NO TO CLEMENT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Peter Gammons will be on ESPNEWS , he is going to talk about the RJ trade and then the topic of "White Sox make offer to Clement." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Peter Gammons will be on ESPNEWS , he is going to talk about the RJ trade and then the topic of "White Sox make offer to Clement." What time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 What time? Soon. Right now there is a guy from ESPN radio 710 (LA) about the RJ trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Soon. Right now there is a guy from ESPN radio 710 (LA) about the RJ trade. Turned it on, thanks a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Peter Gammons will be on ESPNEWS , he is going to talk about the RJ trade and then the topic of "White Sox make offer to Clement." Just knowing how ESPNnews works, it wouldn't surprise me if they just say "The Chicago Tribune and or Bruce Levine of ESPN 1000 is reporting the White Sox have made an offer to Clement." And that it's it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 That Paul Silas interview is some funny s***. "Jesus! Am I speaking Chinese?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Just knowing how ESPNnews works, it wouldn't surprise me if they just say "The Chicago Tribune and or Bruce Levine of ESPN 1000 is reporting the White Sox have made an offer to Clement." And that it's it.. It was one of there topics on the rundown. Usually they'll bring in a guy to talk about it like they did with the guy from ESPN 710. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 It was one of there topics on the rundown. Usually they'll bring in a guy to talk about it like they did with the guy from ESPN 710. I've been watching since the hot list began.. Gammons to be on at 4:10EST/3:10CST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 s***, Gammons isn't scheduled to be on until 3:10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Both Duke Davis on the nation-wide ESPN Radio Sportscenter and Jeff Dickerson on ESPN Radio report the Sox are still very much in the hunt for Clement. In fact, Duke only mentioned the Sox. He said "The White Sox want Matt Clement to stay in the city of Chicago, just on the other side of town." So, while this isn't earth-shattering, it says the Sox are right there in the thick-of-things. For some reason, I think the scales are tilted in the Sox favor right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Dude you rock, SAY NO TO CLEMENT Did anyone else notice this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Also, wasn't it reported that Clement will be signed today by the latest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 ESPN News again reports White Sox make an offer to Clement. Details to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 ESPN News again reports White Sox make an offer to Clement. Details to follow. Mac, Jurko, and Harry is also starting right now, hopefully they'll say something. http://www.espnradio1000.com/listenlive.asp# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I don't know how many times I've told people win/loss records mean nothing when compared to REAL stats, like whip and ERA, not wins or losses. For the fools who won't stop judging pitchers on wins/losses, this is for you: I recall a upcoming "superstud" named Danny Wright (yes, the same Danny Wright the White Sox released for sucking), compiling a 14-12 record in 2002 with a 5.18ERA. By the rational that wins/losses mean something, that makes Dan Wright our new #3 starter AND better than Matt Clement, yet we released him. Now PLEASE, shut up about wins/losses, it makes you sound foolish. I witnessed Clement lose at LEAST two games last season 1-0. The only issue with Clement is, and if the Sox sign him be ready for this, he takes a REALLY long time to pitch. -y2 I agree with the W-L argument. If we signed Odalis Perez, and he was placed in the rotation based upon his W-L record, he would be our #5...went about 7-6 last year IIRC. What I do NOT agree with you or most everyone on his spending a lot on Clement. A guy that went 2-5 5.09 ERA 1.46 WHIP BB/9 of 4.5, K/BB of 2, and a HR/9 of just under 2(1.84) in the second half of the year, compared to what he did in the first half(7-8 2.91 ERA 1.18 WHIP 3.4 BB/9 3 K/9 .77 HR/9) is not really a guy I want for $9-10 mill or whatever he is going to end up getting. I do think getting Clement could be a huge mistake that could cost us big time in the long run. And yes, 3E8, I did notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Did anyone else notice this? Have you seen his grammar? Is it really that much of a surprise? :dips*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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