chisoxgeo Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Just heard it on espn radio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Just heard it on espn radio They are indeed reporting this as a done deal on ESPN News... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Mulder to St. Louis The Big Three is now down to one. ESPN's Peter Gammons reports A's ace Mark Mulder has been traded to the Cardinals for pitchers Danny Haren, Kiko Calero and catcher Daric Barton. Earlier in the week, Oakland sent Tim Hudson to Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Damn....Oakland's surprising me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 A's are definitely in trouble without Mulder and Hudson achoring their rotation. I imagine Beane extracted a good package from St. Louis, but you simply can't compensate the production of Mulder/Hudson with trades for minor league talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxgeo Posted December 19, 2004 Author Share Posted December 19, 2004 For Haren, Calero and Barton whoever they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Damn....Oakland's surprising me.... It's all about the future for them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Too bad for the Scrubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 It's all about the future for them now. Well they definitely gave up on the present... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Oakland's conceding 2005. A 2006 rotation of Harden, Blanton, Meyer, Haren, and Zito/Cruz/? could be pretty impressive, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 The A's might be the worst team in the AL West next year. Why trade for Kendall if you are just going to decimate your pitching staff? SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 It's just a sign of how messed up the financial status of baseball is right now. Teams like Oakland have to unload these guys now to still get some worth for them and they need young talent in return. My guess is that 2-3 of the 6 players acquired in these deals will pan out at the major league level and in 4-5 years, they will be traded right back to the big market clubs. It so tough to compete in baseball with a payroll below 60 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Damn, this only makes the Cards even better. Now if the Astros can resign Beltran, the Cubs will have a very, very tough time next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Oakland's conceding 2005. A 2006 rotation of Harden, Blanton, Meyer, Haren, and Zito/Cruz/? could be pretty impressive, though. They have a bright, bright future in one or two years from now. I would not even be that pissed if i was an a's fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 nice move, by both teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credepopsup Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Why trade for Kendall if you are just going to decimate your pitching staff? SB He'll be a nice trading piece somewhere down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 A's are definitely in trouble without Mulder and Hudson achoring their rotation. I imagine Beane extracted a good package from St. Louis, but you simply can't compensate the production of Mulder/Hudson with trades for minor league talent. You think they might be in the running now for whats left of the FA pitcher market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 They have a bright, bright future in one or two years from now. I would not even be that pissed if i was an a's fan. Of course you would be pissed. How would you feel if management conceeded next season by trading two excellent starting pitchers for prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Kendell had a no trade clause, right? He should be pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Of course you would be pissed. How would you feel if management conceeded next season by trading two excellent starting pitchers for prospects? Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I'd be pissed if I were an A's fan. They are pulling the plug on a team thats been close to winning it all for a while. Unlike the Sox they almost alwyas make the playoffs and have just fallen short. Horrible moves by Beane. They've got some godo young arms, but it takes more then a year or two for those guys to develop, especially without a veteran pitcher to help them. On a sidenote, I bet they move Zito too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 You think they might be in the running now for whats left of the FA pitcher market? I'm not certain of the money available outside of Mulder/Hudsons departure, but from those two certaintly the remaining SP market doesn't favor Oakland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Of course you would be pissed. How would you feel if management conceeded next season by trading two excellent starting pitchers for prospects? I think you could easily live with it if you were going to contend for the next 5 seasons afterwards, which is what the A's are going to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Kenny: Hey Billy...um...what do want for Zito? Billy: Whatcha got? Kenny: How high??...oh you didn't ask me to jump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I think you could easily live with it if you were going to contend for the next 5 seasons afterwards, which is what the A's are going to do. How do you know? Essentially they're getting prospects back in the deal. Prospects are just that -- prospects. They may never pan out. They had two of the best pitchers in the AL, and just traded them away. Like Jason said, If I'm an A's fan, I'd be pissed as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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