A.J. Posted December 20, 2004 Author Share Posted December 20, 2004 As opposed to your assumptions that there's a quarterback out there who would have passed? Yours are more egregious than mine, considering history and truth are on my side. History in who? This new crop of qbs have no history. You can not link vick and co. to examples set by Unitas, marino, montana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 History in who? This new crop of qbs have no history. You can not link vick and co. to examples set by Unitas, marino, montana. I can, until they prove otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 20, 2004 Author Share Posted December 20, 2004 I can, until they prove otherwise. So I guess T.O will break every record with grace just like Jerry Rice until he proves otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bones Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Choking every year in the playoffs? Teams win, not individuals. True, I just don't understand why everyone seems to think he's the greatest qb ever in the NFL when he has all that talent to work with on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 So I guess T.O will break every record with grace just like Jerry Rice until he proves otherwise. Yep. Although TO won't even break Rice's records so it's moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 20, 2004 Author Share Posted December 20, 2004 Yep. Althougth TO won't even break Rice's records so it's moot. ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Manning is overrated based on the fact that he has insane pieces. He is one of the best QBs in the game. The fact that he has 3 quality WRs and the leading rusher in the league makes it easier for him to do well. Any stud QB who can lay in a pass to a WR down field could have this many TD passes. Manning doesn't even take hits either. Hell, the only way to defend Manning, imo, is to get a couple late hits/personal fouls and hope to rattle him one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Dammit AJ! Why does Mary Carey keep taunting me with her potential nakedness? It keeps making me Google image her name and look at pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 20, 2004 Author Share Posted December 20, 2004 Dammit AJ! Why does Mary Carey keep taunting me with her potential nakedness? It keeps making me Google image her name and look at pictures. she's smokin. I only have interest in her since she was a gubernatorial candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 You're kidding... right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Manning is overrated based on the fact that he has insane pieces. He is one of the best QBs in the game. The fact that he has 3 quality WRs and the leading rusher in the league makes it easier for him to do well. Any stud QB who can lay in a pass to a WR down field could have this many TD passes. Manning doesn't even take hits either. Hell, the only way to defend Manning, imo, is to get a couple late hits/personal fouls and hope to rattle him one way or another. Still though, plenty of legendary quarterbacks have been surrounded by insane pieces. My Top 10 of all time, in no particular order: Otto Graham Johnny Unitas Roger Staubach Fran Tarkenton Joe Montana Dan Marino John Elway Steve Young Brett Favre Peyton Manning Joe Namath threw for 173 TDs and 220 INTs, so I hope that nobody takes offense to his absence from this list. I also feel that Terry Bradshaw is not a Top 10 QB. Well, not any more with Favre and Manning stepping into the Top 10, anyway. Go here for fascinating research on quarterbacks: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/qbindex.htm Manning with 213 TDs and 119 INTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 With all of Elway's INTs, McNabb could pass him on that list in 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 With all of Elway's INTs, McNabb could pass him on that list in 10 years. McNabb has the potential to go down as a Top 10 or Top 15 QB. I'd probably just substitute him for Otto Graham, though. Elway's spot in the Top 10 is sealed as far as I'm concerned. More 4th quarter comebacks that any other quarterback in history, IIRC. And he didn't have a bunch of pro bowl caliber players surrounding him on offense like Joe Montana, Steve Young, Peyton Manning, etc. When I think of what Elway had to work with on offense from 85 to 95...I can't think of one skill position player who was at least pro bowl caliber. The receivers were always good, but nothing special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 20, 2004 Author Share Posted December 20, 2004 You're kidding... right? I'm afraid you may have caught me in a fib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I have nothing but respect for Manning also, but now I gotta root hard against him as he faces my SUPER CHARGERS! I think he'll tie the record but not break it Sunday. Chargers D is underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I have nothing but respect for Manning also, but now I gotta root hard against him as he faces my SUPER CHARGERS! I think he'll tie the record but not break it Sunday. Chargers D is underrated. I don't know if your pass defense will compare to what Baltimore was throwing at him all night. I think Peyton gets to 50 next Sunday, we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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