southsideirish71 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I think either lineup would be fine. I'd personally have Eckstein bat second with Rowand third... #1-Podsednik, LF #2-Eckstein, 2B #3-Rowand, CF #4-Konerko, 1B #5-Everett, DH #6-Dye, RF #7-Crede, 3B #8-Davis, C #9-Uribe, SS -Don't ask why I would have Uribe batting last, I just would for some reason. I like this lineup. Pods is your leadoff guy. He gets on and can swipe a base. Eck has good patience and the bat control and speed you need as a number 2. He also can lay down a bunt to sack Pods over to 2nd. Arow is your line drive hitter, doubles guy, has some power but also has some speed. Then you get into the thumper part of your lineup. Konerko Now with the speed ahead of him is less likely to double up. Everett/Thomas Another RBI group. Great place to get some RBIs gives great protection for Konerko. Dye should have some good RBI opps here can extend the inning Crede and Davis have low BA but good power and if they have up years could bridge it back to Uribe who has speed and power. I like it. It is a nice balanced lineup. It should give us more depth and more ability to stretch out some innings and create some runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 If Crede starts of slow Id like to see Uribe at 3rd! Im sick of waiting and Uribe has quite a strong throwing arm! I also could see if Crede played some great D last year, but I think he was average at best! Crede has great d believe it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 plus, with Uribe looking to be a streaky player on offense (with his energy and defense making up for it when he's struggling on offense) having him bat last would be rather ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Crede has great d believe it or not. if he improves on offense he will be a gold glover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 if he improves on offense he will be a gold glover. Ya, make no sense though. It is just a popularity contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Ya, make no sense though. It is just a popularity contest. no, what I meant was, if Crede improves his offense, I think the result will be a much more relaxed defensive player. I think his only flaw on defense is his thought process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 no, what I meant was, if Crede improves his offense, I think the result will be a much more relaxed defensive player. I think his only flaw on defense is his thought process. Sure but don't be surprised if he improved offensively if more people recognized him, giving him a better shot to be a gold glover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Sure but don't be surprised if he improved offensively if more people recognized him, giving him a better shot to be a gold glover. yeah. like qwerty said about it being a popularity contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 1. Podsednik - LF 2. Eckstein - 2B 3. Rowand - CF 4. Konerko - DH 5. Dye - RF 6. Gload - 1B 7. Uribe - SS 8. Crede - 3B 9. Davis - C This is the lineup I want. I don't think the Big Hurt will be ready opening day. When a healthy Frank is in there, I absolutely love that lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 1. Podsednik - LF 2. Eckstein - 2B 3. Rowand - CF 4. Konerko - DH 5. Dye - RF 6. Gload - 1B 7. Uribe - SS 8. Crede - 3B 9. Davis - C This is the lineup I want. I don't think the Big Hurt will be ready opening day. When a healthy Frank is in there, I absolutely love that lineup. When frank is out everett will be the dh and konerko will play first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 When frank is out everett will be the dh and konerko will play first. He said that was the lineup he wanted, not what it would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 He said that was the lineup he wanted, not what it would be. Yeah, I just really like Gload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 He said that was the lineup he wanted, not what it would be. True, he did, i just don't see everett on the bench while frank is out since he is four million dollars and gload is practically nothing. I want to see gload get more time as much as anyone but it won't be next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 True, he did, i just don't see everett on the bench while frank is out since he is four million dollars and gload is practically nothing. I want to see gload get more time as much as anyone but it won't be next year. qwerty is one-hundred percent correct here. Carl Everett will not be on the bench when Frank Thomas is out of the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 And it is stupid for the White Sox to let a contract that they never were even part of the bargain for, dictate who is going to play. Gload and Everett had equal chances last year, Gload out produced Everett. I think Everett will be the "starter" out of respect to him and in hopes that he can put up numbers that come close to worth $4mil, and if he does not Gload will replace him very quickly. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I'd rather get A catcher i think willie with his .340 OBP is not that far worse than eck where are catcher is now our biggest weakness by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 To those who want Uribe 9th in the order...why would we want a guy with an OPS of .830 batting 9th, while having guys with OPS of sub .750 and even some cases sub .700? Is the 9th spot not the spot for your worst hitter? Best possible lineup for us opening day is... Pods - LF Eck - SS Rowand - CF Konerko - 1B Dye - RF Everett - DH Uribe - 2B Crede - 3B Davis - C with Rowand moving down to the 6th spot and Thomas returning to the #3 spot when he returns from his injury. Then again, the possible idea of some type of protection makes sense too. Have a guy who is a very good threat with the bat hit 9th in Uribe, allowing Crede and Davis to see better pitches perhaps. I just do not like Uribe hitting 9th...might have something to do with me being a huge fan of Uribe though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Pod Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 WSCR just reported that the Sox has contacted Eckstein's agent. No other further news. If we get Eckstein, the Carlos Lee's trade has truly panned out for the Sox. Trade Carlos Lee and we get money for: 1) Podsednik 2) Vizcaino 3) El Duque 4) Eckstein 5) A minor league prospect (PTBNL) BY S720 12-22-04 Thanks for the new info, I hope we get Eckstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 What's Eck gonna cost us? Who else is looking at him? Do we play him over Willie?...if so, trade Willie?....platoon him and Willie? Does Eck play other infield positions? We get Eckstien and Willie "I got speed but cant steal a base to save my f***ing life" Harris can hit the road as far as I'm concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 We get Eckstien and Willie "I got speed but cant steal a base to save my f***ing life" Harris can hit the road as far as I'm concerned. Willie spells CF and 2nd base. It gives us also a pinch runner, granted a pinch runner that hugs the base he is on because he is afraid of running, but a fast one when the ball is hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 im not positive but i dont think cora has played ss....which makes it all the better for us to sign eckstein because then we have insurance all around our infield...if uribe struggles eck goes to ss if harris struggles eck goes to 2B if crede struggles uribe goes to 3rd and eckstein goes to ss..... now only if we can sign eckstein and AJ than we have an actual complete team Cora's played over 200 major league games at SS [last in 2003]. Eckstein's played 14 games at 2B [in 2001]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Cora or Ecks will make this offseason sooooooo good. I read that Ozzie's fav. player last year was Eckstein. Hear is the quote from chisox.com. Eckstein was a favorite of manager Ozzie Guillen's last season because of his grittiness and the manner in which he set up the offense at the top of the order. The diminutive shortstop made just six errors in the field during the 2004 season. I really like Uribe at SS so if we get eck he should be at 2nd but beck72 made a good point with eck has not played much at 2nd base. But either Cora or Eckstein will make me damn happy to be a sox fan!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 This is the question you have to ask yourself, do you want cora who has a better on base percentage or eckstein who has more steals better average and world series experience? Alex Cora: 29 YEAR G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS 2004 138 405 47 107 9 4 10 47 47 41 3 4 .264 .364 .380 .745 David Eckstein: 29 YEAR G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS 2004 142 566 92 156 24 1 2 35 42 49 16 5 .276 .339 .332 .671 my choice eckstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 #s are kind of off place but u can fig it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjam44 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I read an article a while back on eck and his whole life people have said he can't cut it... I have no doubt that he could step in and play second base.. the guy knows how to get it done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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