AnthraxFan93 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Agreed. Lets make sure he's for real before we throw big money at him. But, its okay to throw it at Uribe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 But, its okay to throw it at Uribe? Uribe can play all three infield positions. I have been reading the following on these boards: Trade Crede and slide Uribe to third Pick up Vizquel and slide Uribe to second Go get Eck and put him at second and leave Uribe at SS. He's young, cheap, and improving. And the way teams are signing SS now, the next free agent class is going to average $10 mil a year. Hard hitting OF are a dime a dozen. If Rowand is having a bad year, we can slide Spod to CF and get a LF through a mid season trade. C'mon Anthrax, do you think these posts through or do you just post whatever comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 IMO the 3 most important DEF postions on the Diamond are 2b SS and CF Always want to have a soild middle, which Rowand provides. He is one of the few home grown talents we have that have panned out, time to pay the man for f***ing him over the last 3 years. you forgot catcher....solid up the middle includes behind the plate......and maybe with rowand we give him around 4 mill and load it with incentives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Uribe can play all three infield positions. I have been reading the following on these boards: Trade Crede and slide Uribe to third Pick up Vizquel and slide Uribe to second Go get Eck and put him at second and leave Uribe at SS. He's young, cheap, and improving. And the way teams are signing SS now, the next free agent class is going to average $10 mil a year. Hard hitting OF are a dime a dozen. If Rowand is having a bad year, we can slide Spod to CF and get a LF through a mid season trade. C'mon Anthrax, do you think these posts through or do you just post whatever comes to mind. DYB, Rowand can play all 3 OF postions, I love Rowand, but the sox have done nothing but f*** him over time and time again..as stated before one of their own home grown talents wants to stay, so instead of 10 its going to cost 12mil. Just sick of watching our talent walk over 1-2mil dollar differnce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Uribe can play all three infield positions. I have been reading the following on these boards: Trade Crede and slide Uribe to third Pick up Vizquel and slide Uribe to second Go get Eck and put him at second and leave Uribe at SS. He's young, cheap, and improving. And the way teams are signing SS now, the next free agent class is going to average $10 mil a year. Hard hitting OF are a dime a dozen. If Rowand is having a bad year, we can slide Spod to CF and get a LF through a mid season trade. C'mon Anthrax, do you think these posts through or do you just post whatever comes to mind. rowand can play all three OF positions surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Or, Rowand can hit 265 next season, have 100 K's, and we be stuck with a bad contract for four years. You b**** to b****. STFU. ANd Uribe, who had one good year while hitting all in hitters parks. You feel he deserves all that money ... I sure as hell don't one decent year, doesn't require that much money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I hope we don't sign Rowand to a long-term deal. I don't think you build your offense around a guy who doesn't do any one hting exceptionally well. He does most things fairly well, but he just doesn't have enough power or enough speed for my liking. I wanted Rowand traded this offseason while at peak value, we'll see how this works out for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I hope we don't sign Rowand to a long-term deal. I don't think you build your offense around a guy who doesn't do any one hting exceptionally well. He does most things fairly well, but he just doesn't have enough power or enough speed for my liking. I wanted Rowand traded this offseason while at peak value, we'll see how this works out for the Sox. Rowand is the closest thing we have to a .300 hitter, how can you say trade him. Also to say he is not above avg in defense is crazy. He plays hard, he has heart, why in the world would you want to trade him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I didn't say he wasn't above average in anything, I said he's not exceptional in anything and there is a difference. I think that you'll never get more for him than right now, which is why I'd trade him. This guy has so much heart and desire for baseball that he was willing to throw it away riding dirtbikes. I forgot as a member of this board that you aren't allowed to not like rowand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I didn't say he wasn't above average in anything, I said he's not exceptional in anything and there is a difference. I think that you'll never get more for him than right now, which is why I'd trade him. This guy has so much heart and desire for baseball that he was willing to throw it away riding dirtbikes. I forgot as a member of this board that you aren't allowed to not like rowand. You are acting like 90% or more of players in sports don't do things they are not suppos eto in the off-seasin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I forgot as a member of this board that you aren't allowed to not like rowand. Are you being sarcastic? You can like who ever you want, s*** you can have Harris as your favorite player of all time but to try and trade Rowand would be dumb. Theres no other team that values him like we do, so even if you would trade him we wouldn't be getting what we think he is worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Of course I was being sarcastic. I know you don't have to like or dislike anyone, but I certainly don't dislike Rowand simply to be contrarian. I think it would make good baseball sense if he's not part of our future. I'm not saying anyone who disagrees is wrong, but that is how I feel. I just think that if Rowand is our franchise player then we have lowered our expectations too much and that Sox fans get brainwashed by this "grinder" propaganda. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Of course I was being sarcastic. I know you don't have to like or dislike anyone, but I certainly don't dislike Rowand simply to be contrarian. I think it would make good baseball sense if he's not part of our future. I'm not saying anyone who disagrees is wrong, but that is how I feel. I just think that if Rowand is our franchise player then we have lowered our expectations too much and that Sox fans get brainwashed by this "grinder" propaganda. Just my opinion. Last year he hit .310 with a .905 OPS. When i said he could be a guy to build our team around i meant if he put up those numbers again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Rowand can steal bases. Rowand can catch the ball. Rowand can run. If Aaron goes into the All Star break next year with a .300 average and some other good numbers to show for it, start to contract negotiating, and give him what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie's Accent Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 IMO the 3 most important DEF postions on the Diamond are 2b SS and CF Always want to have a soild middle, which Rowand provides. He is one of the few home grown talents we have that have panned out, time to pay the man for f***ing him over the last 3 years. I would put Catcher at the top of the list. Something we are lacking right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I kind of like the idea of having a guy on the team that does everything well. Rowand plays a damn good CF, runs the bases like he actually knows what he is doing, hits for power and average. I'll take 9 Aaron Rowand type players and take my chances. As far as a comparison to Uribe goes, Uribe is a solid ballplayer that can turn out to be a bargain for the next 3 or 4 years. I have no complaints with the signing of Uribe. I really don't feel that we threw a ton of money his way. I certainly like that signing much better than I would have liked the Sox signing Cabrera for what the Angels did. Hell, that's a no brainer. If I was Rowand, I wouldn't agree to sign a contract for what Uribe did. Rowand is a more complete player at this point. He is more consistant. But, I also feel the Sox are doing the right thing by making him prove he's capable of repeating or exceeding last year's production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frahungski Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 rowand has been solid for years now. last year was just the first time he has had any PT to speak of. give him the contract now before the value goes too much higher next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 rowand has been solid for years now. last year was just the first time he has had any PT to speak of. give him the contract now before the value goes too much higher next year. Welcome to the board...Gotta love the One Dog! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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