bigred3535 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I just got a subscription to Baseball Prospectus, so I thought I'd put it to good use. I was looking over their VORP stats (Value Over Replacement Player) and here's what I found for next year's projected lineup - in parentheses are their ranks behind other mostly everyday players (at least 450 PA, and about 350 for catchers): C - Jamie Burke 9.0 (7th in AL behind Pudge Rodriguez - 63.1, 18th in MLB behind Pudge) Ben Davis 0.2, he's so far down I don't feel like counting 1B - Paul Konerko 48.1 (2nd in AL behind Mark Teixiera - 52.6, 8th in MLB behind Pujols - 103.5) 2B - Willie Harris 5.2 (14th in AL behind Alfonso Soriano 39.8, and just behind Tony Graffanino, tied for 27th in MLB behind Mark Loretta - 76.2) 3B - Joe Crede 1.2 (26th in AL behind Melvin Mora 73.6, 39th in MLB, behind Adrian Beltre - 89.1) SS - Juan Uribe 32.1 (listed at second base, 4th in AL, 12th in MLB) RF - Jermaine Dye 23.3 (6th in AL behind Vladimir Guerrero, 14th in MLB behind Guerrero) CF - Scott Podsednik 19.3 (12th in NL behind Jim Edmonds - 88.9, 22nd in MLB, behind Edmonds) LF - Aaron Rowand 50.0 at CF (2nd in AL behind Johnny Damon, 3rd in MLB behind Jim Edmonds) note: Carlos Lee was 3rd in AL at 46.8, 6th in MLB DH - Frank Thomas 34.2 (4th in MLB behind David Ortiz - 71.3) Remember, these are subjective based on average statisitcs at each position, so just because Joe Crede is at 1.2 doesn't neccessarily mean he's less valuable than Willie Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Sabermetrics is devil speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred3535 Posted December 22, 2004 Author Share Posted December 22, 2004 It's interesting to look at how weakened our lineup is going to be without Carlos and Mags, though. Especially if the Sox can't sign a replacement for Harris and Davis/Burke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 can you explain this statistic a little more for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 can you explain this statistic a little more for me? Value Over Replacement Player- The number of runs contributed beyond what a replacement-level player would contribute if given the same percentage of team plate appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Im confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Im confused. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I like the old school stats, none of this new age stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Ya I hate all this new stats s***. Most of it is useless imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Value Over Replacement Player- The number of runs contributed beyond what a replacement-level player would contribute if given the same percentage of team plate appearances. so its just the average replacement player not what that players replacement would be on his team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 http://www.stathead.com/bbeng/woolner/vorpdescnew.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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