MinnesotaSoxFan Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 (edited) I think he will be in the more than 10, but less than 15 range. Edit: Whoops sorry for not seeing the other thread... Edited December 24, 2004 by MinnesotaSoxFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 16 wins for Jon this year, as he learns to avoid that big inning against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 16 wins for Jon this year, as he learns to avoid that big inning against. As you can see there's 2 votes for that amount; I think he'll finish with 16 too. I don't think he'll feel as much pressure in the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Pod Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 more than 10 but less than 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 I think as long as Garland is at the end of the rotation, 4th or 5th. He has a good chance to win 15 games.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 i predict 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 im going 16-20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 12W, ERA of 4.55. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Three words: Not good enough. What I would really like to know is who voted for more than 20.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Three words: Not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 10 to 15. Until he proves he's not a mental midget I have to go with this number. I have no problem with Jon and he's actually an above average pitcher, I love having him as our 5th starter but I just don't see him winning more then 15 as of right now, I hope he proves me wrong. Either way having 12, 13, 14 wins out of the 5 hole is absolutely fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 I said 15 exactly. This will be his breakout year. I think he'll go 15-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 hes gonna be at the bottom of the rotation where most guys get about ten wins so i went with ten buehrle garcia and duque will take most of the wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 I'm still holding hope for Garland. I think he can become a 15 game winner, hopefully this year. But 10-15 seems more logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 I think he will be in the more than 10, but less than 15 range. Edit: Whoops sorry for not seeing the other thread... 25+ wins?!? That's one hell of a poll choice considering that I dont think anyone's done that since Either Bob Welch or Dave Stewart did in the late 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Plus if any of the Sox pitchers were to win 25 games it sure as hell wouldn't be Garland... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaSoxFan Posted December 24, 2004 Author Share Posted December 24, 2004 I know that 25+ is unrealistic... I put it there for the hell of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Heh, I went with 25+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 12 win, same old same old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 I think Jon will get 15 exactly. At times I'm sure he'll look like this on the mound as far as pitching.. :puke And I'm sure in some starts he'll look like this.. But I think he'll be better this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Worse Case Scenario: Same 12 games won. Best Case Scenario: 15-18 games won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 Worse Case Scenario: Same 12 games won. Best Case Scenario: 15-18 games won. I don't see how 12 wins is a worst case scenario when that's the most he's ever had and our offense figures to not score quite as many runs. That said, I'd gladly take 12 wins from Jon. I just hope he doesn't regress (if that's possible) and win 8 or 9. 25+? :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 I don't see how 12 wins is a worst case scenario when that's the most he's ever had and our offense figures to not score quite as many runs. That said, I'd gladly take 12 wins from Jon. I just hope he doesn't regress (if that's possible) and win 8 or 9. 25+? :rolly The thing about it is he's done it three years straight. Honestly I can't see him regressing. I think he's hit his bottom and he can only get better from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 25+ wins?!? That's one hell of a poll choice considering that I dont think anyone's done that since Either Bob Welch or Dave Stewart did in the late 80's. Bob Welch was the Last to Win over 25 when he won 27 in 1990. Who ever said 25 or more needs to lay off the kool - aid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 Who ever said 25 or more needs to lay off the kool - aid ... and the weed. Maybe if Jon would take that advice, he could actually become something in the majors instead of being an underachiever his whole career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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