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To be fair, I moved out of Chicago about 12 years ago, so I am really only speaking from memory.  But I do recall construction workers finding bullet holes in the seats of "New Comiskey" while it was being built.  Also, as a kid, I was not allowed to travel that far south on the El by myself, Wrigleyville was Ok though.

The bullet holes were a myth, as some of the projects were located across the highway. Of course it would take a sniper rifle to hit the upper deck seats with a bullet. As far as neighborhoods go, the worst projects in the city are actually on the northside of town. This is something cubs fans would not make public.

 

But to answer your question, I have been a season ticket holder for awhile, and I even used to go to old comiskey, which was way way way better than wrigley. The cell has become a great place to watch a game, not only because of the fans, but the baseball and the food as well.

 

Cubs fan, I mean real die-hard cubs fans, are few and far between. They do exist, however, and are very knowledgeable. But generally for the most part, there are wrigley field fans. Who only go there because there are bars in the area who will serve beer to minors. Its a great place to party because of the baseball atmosphere. But if anyone recalls, back in the 80's/90's when the sox were good, and the cubs were s***, the sox were way more popular as far as the casual baseball fan goes. You can really get a feeling for this when you live here for awhile. The true baseball fan watches games on the south side.

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I think it also helps that the Scrubs are owned by a Media group and they can and do hype their overrated team as much as possible....

true dat, they single handedly make their team more popular in the city, by basically whining and crying every day in the paper about their team. The cubune is VERY one-sided

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1. Is US Cellular Field as bad as people say? A friend of mine went there a few years ago and said it was one of the worst stadiums he's been to. The best stadiums I've been to are Fenway, Yankee, Wrigley (sorry), Camden Yards and Citizens Bank (the new Phillies stadium). I'm looking forward to my first visit to the "Cell" this season.

 

2. Why do the Cubs seem to have so many more fans than the Sox? Like I said in my earlier post, the Cubs seem to me to be like the Yankees and Lakers in that they're the "hip" team in town, but I am wondering about the true die-hard fans. The Sox have been around over 100 years, so they should be at least close to the Cubs in terms of fan support. Did Sox fans gradually abandon ship after the 1919 scandal? Or is it something else? Or is this just a wrong perception created by the media? Just trying to get a feel for the true baseball culture in Chicago.

1 Like everyone stated the park is re done and looks great.

 

2 The cub fans are brainwashed robots. WGN and the Tribune CO. have a big part on this. Most cub fans are NOT real fans. Ask a cub fan what position does Carlos Zambrano play, I guarantee you a lot won't be able to answer. I'm a bartender so when I see one of the brainwashed robots , I ask them this.

 

 

Cub fan not knowing Zambrano= Sox Fan not knowing Buerhle

 

:fthecubs :sosasucks

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1. No, that's bulls***. If there is an area with potential problems, Sox fans are smart enough to not walk through those area, but it's not like you HAVE to walk through them to get to the ballpark.

 

2. The Cubs' popularity didn't sky rocket until the Tribune company bought them in the early 80's. The Cubs didn't draw s*** in some years before the Tribune company, and what is now known as Wrigleyville was worse than the s*** that Cub fans make up about the area surrounding USCF. The Tibune Company marketed Harry Caray, Ivy, Wrigley Field experience, the 7th inning stretch sang by C-Level celebrities, and some other s*** not associated with the game of baseball. It also helps that most of their games are on WGN, which is availble throughout the nation. The Sox went the other way in the early 80's by putting games on pay TV. :headshake Sammy Sosa roiding up in 1998 also gave the cubs more exposure, which was the same season they tied for the Wild Card and had a playoff game against the Giants on national TV. The 2003 playoff run for the Cubs resulted in more people jumping on the Cubbie bandwagon.

 

I hope 2005 is the year in which the White Sox come out of nowhere to win the AL Pennant and shove it up the collective asses of all the obnoxious pricks on the Northside, and everyone in the Chicago media.

:headbang

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1. U.S. Cellular was considered to be one of the worst stadiums in baseball, but the renovations over the past few years has changed that I think. The park is much improved.

 

2. The Cubs are more popular because of where they play and because of WGN. The Sox play in a residential neighborhood on the south side while the Cubs play in Wrigley, which is filled with bars and restaurants.

 

I'd say the number of real, legit, intelligent fans is the same ... the Cubs just beat out the Sox when it comes to casual fans.

:notworthy

 

I trace some of the fan base issues to TV in the 70's. The Sox were on a bad reception UHF station (44 for us history buffs), then they went to a pay per view service (Sports Vision??) all the while the Cubs were busy marketing WGN across the country. They played during the day and quite frankly some suburbanites don't like to drive into the city at night :unsure:

 

Corporate entertaining, when buyers and other executives could get away during the day was nice. Take a customer out to lunch and a ball game.

 

There was also the threatened move to St. Petersburg if the Sox didn't get a very good stadium deal. Then Governor Thompson kept moving the hands on the clock back before midnight until a deal could be made. IMHO, the Sox would have died in Florida and the Cubs would have won a World Series by now with a $120,000,000 payroll.

 

The Cell has always been a decent park to enjoy a ball game from the lower level. There have always been about 10,000 excellent seats. The upper deck was awkward at best. The food is awesome in both variety and quality. I have never had a problem getting to or from any event at the Cell or before that Cominsky. I have had a window vroken and stuff stolen at a Bulls game. Someone urinated on my shoe after a Cubs game, oops that was me

 

And after all that, I would find any excuse to love the Yankees if I was from anywhere within 200 miles of the Bronx. At least heart break happens in October not June every year. :ph34r:

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1.  The Cell is greeat venue to watch baseball.

 

2.  They've been hammering the slogan "Beautiful Wrigley Field" into the minds of Chicagoans for as long as I can recall.  That's ok I guess, but be sure to wear a hardhat to the game.

when i was in chi, i was a season ticket holder and yeah i had choice seats, but i love the park. however i heard they improve the other parts that needed it, and i heard it great. i wish i was able to see it.

 

sCrubs fan, i think with the pud of the player they call sosa, i think the fans are starting to see the light.

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1. The park was built to watch baseball. Really the last one to have done that. I liked it when it was new. I like it even more now. The improvements have done a lot to cater to what fans demand of a baseball stadium today without giving up the awesome food and great sightlines that every section of the park has. Even the crappiest seats in the old upper deck of the cell had a great view.

 

2. I blame Ferris Bueller's Day Off and the 1984 NL Playoff team of the Cubs. Coupled with a superior play by play guy that we gave up (Harry Caray) and moving our games off WGN and to WFLD 32 and SportsChannel in 1981, and about ten years of bad teams in a bad neighborhood - the 1980s weren't the best for Bridgeport hurt us.

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1. Is US Cellular Field as bad as people say? A friend of mine went there a few years ago and said it was one of the worst stadiums he's been to. The best stadiums I've been to are Fenway, Yankee, Wrigley (sorry), Camden Yards and Citizens Bank (the new Phillies stadium). I'm looking forward to my first visit to the "Cell" this season.

 

2. Why do the Cubs seem to have so many more fans than the Sox? Like I said in my earlier post, the Cubs seem to me to be like the Yankees and Lakers in that they're the "hip" team in town, but I am wondering about the true die-hard fans. The Sox have been around over 100 years, so they should be at least close to the Cubs in terms of fan support. Did Sox fans gradually abandon ship after the 1919 scandal? Or is it something else? Or is this just a wrong perception created by the media? Just trying to get a feel for the true baseball culture in Chicago.

1. people think its bad because its in a bad area, but they just havent learned that you dont have to travel through the suburbs to get their

 

2. yeah wrigley is more of a party place i don't think the fans could give a damn if they win or lose, but wrigleyville has had a lot of incidents lately

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