babybearhater Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Milton signed a contract with the reds at almost the exact same value as Matt Clement's. With a 4.75 ERA, the question is...did the reds overpay for Milton, and is the trend this offseason overpaying for sp's who arent really that good??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 He compliments Cinncinati's horrible rotation pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemg311 Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 hmmm im still glad he didnt sign with the indians wasnt he rumored to go there??? or im thinking of millwood nevermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 hmmm im still glad he didnt sign with the indians wasnt he rumored to go there??? or im thinking of millwood nevermind Millwood signed with the indians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Milton + Great American = 5+ ERA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 I like RotoWorlds take on this signing.... Eric Milton received a three-year, $25.5 million contract from the Reds. $8.5 million per season for a pitcher with a career ERA of 4.76. This just might be the worst deal of the offseason, which is really saying something. Milton receives a $4 million signing bonus, $4 million in 2005, $8.5 million in 2006 and $9 million in 2007. He can opt out of the final year of the deal just in case he actually exceeds expectations. We put the chances of that happening at 1.9 percent. Dec. 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Somebody here did the numbers and GAB played like a fair park last year, which is not what we have heard or would think. Milton is a good pitcher but not a great one. Until we get to see more seasons out of the Phillie Park, it's hard to judge exactly how bad 4.75 is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 I like RotoWorlds take on this signing.... Eric Milton received a three-year, $25.5 million contract from the Reds. $8.5 million per season for a pitcher with a career ERA of 4.76. This just might be the worst deal of the offseason, which is really saying something. Milton receives a $4 million signing bonus, $4 million in 2005, $8.5 million in 2006 and $9 million in 2007. He can opt out of the final year of the deal just in case he actually exceeds expectations. We put the chances of that happening at 1.9 percent. Dec. 27 They'll surprise you at Rotoworld sometimes. One time they referred to KW's man-crush on Borch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 I thought it was a typo when I first saw those numbers... that really may be the worst contract of this offseason.... which is saying a lot... why wouldn't the Reds be in on the Clement signing if they're going to spend that type of money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 why wouldn't the Reds be in on the Clement signing if they're going to spend that type of money? Simple, they are the reds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Simple, they are the reds. They might just have to contract that team with more moves like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Well don't they also have a terrible contract for Jr.??? I think that says it all really.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 There have been more than one horrible contract this year. The money spent on some of thesemedoicre, or even some good but not great, players in simply unreal. I look at the Dodger signing of JD Drew and good ballplayer for sure, but $11M a year for 5 years for a guy who was injured lots and had only one real good season? And that season was last year. A history of being able to play a full season for more than one year is something I think a team should look at. Milton's contract sucks and so does some of the others. I am glad we don't overpay for mediocrity. But, I will say I wish we would pay for some of the better ones out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Would you rather have Milton or Benson for about the same cash? I really don't know. I'd choose neither were it an option but I'd take Milton at gunpoint simply because he's left-handed. As far as Junior Griffey's bad contract goes, yes it is high and unmoveable but Griff signed below market value. It's hard to fault Bowden or the Reds for bringing him in when you take away the supreme benefit of hindsight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 The Reds GM was on ESPN Radio All-Night last night and he and the host were talking about Milton like he was Roger Clemens circa 1986... It was insanity... the GM had this smug tone like he just pulled off a major coup... Not once did they mention his numbers... They were referring to him as an "elite" level FA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Wow, everytime you see a bad contract, one comes along that surprises you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 It amazes me how little some of these guys care about winning. Milton is rumored to the Yankees and ends up on the Reds, a team who has no chance of finishing higher than fourth in the division for the duration of the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Regardless how much most of these guys say they want to win... it almost always comes down to money!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 The Reds GM was on ESPN Radio All-Night last night and he and the host were talking about Milton like he was Roger Clemens circa 1986... It was insanity... the GM had this smug tone like he just pulled off a major coup... Not once did they mention his numbers... They were referring to him as an "elite" level FA... Well you have to remember where he's going. I'm glad we didn't sign the guy. Milton may not be great, but he's certainly not that bad. I'm glad the Reds are at least trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 any pitcher is elite for the reds when you look at their staff, i mean their best pitcher is paul wilson!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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