greasywheels121 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 1, 2005 -> 04:12 PM) With our top 2 pitching dynomite on the road....what was our home/away record? Ha interesting point... H: 46-35 A: 37-44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 QUOTE (greasywheels121 @ Jan 1, 2005 -> 09:14 PM) Ha interesting point... H: 46-35 A: 37-44 In 2005, I think that we have the potential to post a sub .500 record at home and an above .500 record on the road. That would be completely retarded if it were to happen, but I can see the potential with Mark and Freddy on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 What are our home/away ERA's for pitchers not named Buehrle or Garcia? I'd look myself, but I'm lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 <!--QuoteBegin-Heads22+Jan 1, 2005 -> 04:20 PM--> QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 1, 2005 -> 04:20 PM) <!--QuoteEBegin--> What are our home/away ERA's for pitchers not named Buehrle or Garcia? I'd look myself, but I'm lazy. Garland--> H: 5.27 A: 4.61 Contreras--> H: 4.72 A: 6.09 (Damn Fenway ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 1, 2005 -> 09:20 PM) What are our home/away ERA's for pitchers not named Buehrle or Garcia? I'd look myself, but I'm lazy. Here ya go: Road Home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raff Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 freddy and mark are another year better and wiser. they should be fine. mb's era gets inflated b/c of a couple bad starts he always has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 does anyone know if that thing they are putting up for the small kids like the small baseball diamond will have any effect on the wind?? and i could of swore i heard we be moving home plate back some which will help a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 White Sox pitching, home: 2000 ERA 4.66 HRA 104 2001 4.48 106 2002 4.26 90 2003 3.92 88 2004 5.09 127 White Sox hitting, home: 2000 runs 524 avg .293 HR 125 2001 414 .270 114 2002 477 .280 132 2003 466 .264 130 2004 466 .276 145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Runs: WS + opponent = total at Comiskey 2000: 524 + 430 = 954 2001: 414 + 405 = 819 2002: 477 + 373 = 850 2003: 466 + 342 = 808 2004: 466 + 437 = 903 I wish they'd quit moving the fences in and out every yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Jan 1, 2005 -> 03:10 PM) Or we could just blow it off the map. I'll pitch in for dynamite. OK but we'll have the test the TNT first. You hold it. Seriously, we need more that one year and one group of players to really see the impact of the new roof. At least let them finish the new seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Jan 1, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) Here ya go: Road Home See, that's why Contreras is such a total f***ing anomaly. Only Jose Contreras could post an ERA that was better at US Cellular than on the road. Contreras can be awesome. Then again, he can be terrible, too. If Contreras can keep his mentality strong, I'm tellin ya -- we have a sub-3.50 ERA pitcher on our hand. No one can hit him when he's got his splitter complimenting that fastball... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 It seems our pen had serious issues on the road. Hell, Mike Jackson had the third best road ERA. Takatsu: 2.51 Marte: 2.78 Jackson: 4.64 Diaz: 6.14 (6 games, 2 starts) Politte: 6.14 (WHIP 2.09; 15 BB 22.0 IP) Adkins: 6.66 (.343 BAA) Cotts: 7.07 (27 games, 1 start; 9 HR) Koch: 7.59 (9 BB, 9 K, 10.2 IP) Bajenaru: 7.94 Stewart: 12.46 (2 games, 1 start) Muñoz: 13.97 (7 games, 1 start) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 It seems our pen had serious issues on the road. Hell, Mike Jackson had the third best road ERA. Takatsu: 2.51 Marte: 2.78 Jackson: 4.64 Diaz: 6.14 (6 games, 2 starts) Politte: 6.14 (WHIP 2.09; 15 BB 22.0 IP) Adkins: 6.66 (.343 BAA) Cotts: 7.07 (27 games, 1 start; 9 HR) Koch: 7.59 (9 BB, 9 K, 10.2 IP) Bajenaru: 7.94 Stewart: 12.46 (2 games, 1 start) Muñoz: 13.97 (7 games, 1 start) Yeah, but with the exception of Marte and Shingo, those guys would have serious issues anywhere. The rookies get a pass because they're just that...rookies. The two keepers from the bunch had stellar road performances. Shingo was outstanding at home and on the road, actually. Hopefully, Vizcaino and Hermanson will be right around 3.50 on the road next year, or better. Then we'll improve on that crappy 37-44 record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 our pen is a lot different with hermason and vizquaino or whatevr those guys along with marte and shingo are the guys we are relying on also all the rooks got bad era from their starts really except baj who was just bad all around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Jan 2, 2005 -> 01:20 AM) Yeah, but with the exception of Marte and Shingo, those guys would have serious issues anywhere. The rookies get a pass because they're just that...rookies. The two keepers from the bunch had stellar road performances. Shingo was outstanding at home and on the road, actually. Hopefully, Vizcaino and Hermanson will be right around 3.50 on the road next year, or better. Then we'll improve on that crappy 37-44 record. They should, I think our pen will be greatly improved this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Baj got a run of bad luck too. Neal didn't get that ERA from his starts..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 cotts got the era after his start... and adkins was really pitching hurt about the whole year... baj looked good in the minors but he was pretty bad in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Jan 2, 2005 -> 01:35 AM) cotts got the era after his start... and adkins was really pitching hurt about the whole year... baj looked good in the minors but he was pretty bad in the majors. Yeah but normally rookies dont come right in and dominate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Jan 1, 2005 -> 07:35 PM)cotts got the era after his start... and adkins was really pitching hurt about the whole year... baj looked good in the minors but he was pretty bad in the majors. Ok....6.39 ERA in relief appearances on the road.... And here I thought he was doing bad in relief on the road.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jan 1, 2005 -> 12:19 AM) This is a far cry from last season where we were resting our hope on Scott Schoenweis as #4 (a one time failed starter turned middle reliever repurposed into a starter again) and Danny Wright as #5 (a pitcher better suited for the bullpen than as a starter) It's amusing to me that Sox management decides that a power filled lineup doesnt work and we need a new direction , when clearly, if we had a better pitching staff all along we would've competed. Saying the power lineup got us nowhere is just managements attempt to redirect the blame away from themselves for not getting the Sox better pitching. Been following the thread since my last post and mostly all seem to agree the pitching sucked wether at home or on the road with the exception of MB and FG on the road . Blame "the Cell" if u want but we won more at home then on the road . And if " the Cell" plays so favorably to power why are we changing our team to one that can hit to one with speed ? Yea we upgraded the pitching and that was my whole point , we needed to do that and we would have competed much better had we had the pitching along with the power lineup. Dont see how not having Maggs and CLee who both hit for avg and power will help the offense become any more consistent unless u mean consistently scoring less runs. Seems to me the pitching was a lot more inconsistent then the hitting . We argue back and forth on wether the pitching or hitting was more "inconsistent" , but manngement's spin that it was the hitting is just that , pure spin . They've done a great job at covering their own asses on the failures of the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 2, 2005 -> 01:57 AM) QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Jan 1, 2005 -> 07:35 PM) Ok....6.39 ERA in relief appearances on the road.... And here I thought he was doing bad in relief on the road.... hey i know baj posts here and all and seems like a pretty much good guy but of all the people in the bullpen that stayed of any extended time at all he was prob the worse. Hell Borchard seems like a good guy too so would it be wrong to say he sucked in the majors too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Yeah Baj didn't pitch well. You can't read everyone on a Sept callup either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 2, 2005 -> 12:41 AM) Yeah Baj didn't pitch well. You can't read everyone on a Sept callup either. His numbers were poor, however he didn't pitch that bad, he had a lot of bad luck, a lot of balls that were hit soft got through on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Management is covering their asses with spin? I see it like this. They are identifying what went wrong last year and trying to go out and change some of the things that faltered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 2, 2005 Author Share Posted January 2, 2005 QUOTE (YASNY @ Jan 2, 2005 -> 02:32 AM) Management is covering their asses with spin? I see it like this. They are identifying what went wrong last year and trying to go out and change some of the things that faltered. Which is the correct thing to do. Unfortunatly we do not have a pile of money to go fix things. We have to sell some assets. Power was what we have a surplus of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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