lvjeremylv Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 but just when I start to almost get excited about the Sox in 2005, I come back to reality..does anyone honestly think that if the Sox manage to make it to the playoffs, that things will be any different than they've been in the past? We choke every year at some point, and if we had to go into Yankee Stadium in October, it would be absolutely humiliating. I'm looking forward to the season and think this has the potential to be the best Sox team in years, BUT we are no where near capable of beating somebody in October, and I think we should all keep that in mind and not get our hopes up too much. Hopefully we can play well from the outset, have a good attendance, and build on it for next season. That's the only chance we've got IMO. Hopefully, by 2008 or 2009, we'll be able to field a team with players that aren't afraid of success. I'd say we're on the right track (finally), but it's going to be a slow process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Hey, anything can happen in the playoffs. We just have to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaCWS Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Hey, anything can happen in the playoffs. We just have to get there. Exactly. Who thought the Marlins or Angels were doing anything the years they ended up winning it? Yet both of them knocked off the Yanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Outstanding Thread. Honestly. Truly Riveting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Hey, anything can happen in the playoffs. We just have to get there. Good Post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Progress to me would be getting to the playoffs and winning ONE game. I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but it would be one step further to that pennant than we've gone since 1983. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pods70Rowand33 Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 The season can go one way or the other in my opinion. I really do not know what to expect from this team. But i do like how they had a plan this offseason and they stuck to it. We did need a change, and now we do have a more consistant offense. Remember you can always play smallball, and last year when Maggs and Frank were on the DL our offense started to slide, because we lost our homerun guys. We added some speed, and we have some guys that can move runners over, and we still have Konerko, Rowand depending on where they bat him, Dye, and Everette to hit guys in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 The 2003 Cubs actually made it to the NLCS. You make it to the playoffs, it's anybodys game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I love when people chuck the whole season in the toilet months before the first pitch. Why even call yourself a fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I think baseball is the professional sport most likely for an upset to occur on any given day. Basketball being least likely. Just an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 when you got at least 2 solid starters in your rotation anything can happen in the playoffs enuf said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I'm looking forward to the season and think this has the potential to be the best Sox team in years, BUT we are no where near capable of beating somebody in October, and I think we should all keep that in mind and not get our hopes up too much. Hopefully we can play well from the outset, have a good attendance, and build on it for next season. That's the only chance we've got IMO. Hopefully, by 2008 or 2009, we'll be able to field a team with players that aren't afraid of success. I'd say we're on the right track (finally), but it's going to be a slow process. See you in 3 to 4 years then... Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted December 31, 2004 Author Share Posted December 31, 2004 I love when people chuck the whole season in the toilet months before the first pitch. Why even call yourself a fan? Nah, not saying this season is going to be a waste. All I'm saying is anybody that has World Series aspirations is just setting themselves up for disappointment. If the Sox can win the Central I'd be happy, and like someone said, if they could actually win a playoff game, that would be an awesome improvement. I think this team is capable of both if they stay healthy and our pitching doesn't implode as per usual. Just because I'm being realistic about this team and our chances, that doesn't mean I'm less of a fan than anyone else here. I'm very much looking forward to seeing our new guys and how they can gel as a team, so I don't know where your "Why even call yourself a fan" comment stems from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Nah, not saying this season is going to be a waste. All I'm saying is anybody that has World Series aspirations is just setting themselves up for disappointment. If the Sox can win the Central I'd be happy, and like someone said, if they could actually win a playoff game, that would be an awesome improvement. I think this team is capable of both if they stay healthy and our pitching doesn't implode as per usual. Just because I'm being realistic about this team and our chances, that doesn't mean I'm less of a fan than anyone else here. I'm very much looking forward to seeing our new guys and how they can gel as a team, so I don't know where your "Why even call yourself a fan" comment stems from. The sox aren't the most talented team in the baseball there is no doubt about that, however if they get into the playoffs with the pitching staff they have, they have a chance to make some noise, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Most of the time pitching is more reliable in the postseason than hitting. Sure a team like the Angels can get hot in October but teams with good pitching (especially starting) have a better chance at winning some games. I look at what the Red Sox to the Yankees and Cards as a good example of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Some guy made a post last season about how the Red Sox will always "break our hearts" and will never win the World Series last season. We all know who the World Series Champions are today. EDIT: If you need a reminder, look to the left of this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted December 31, 2004 Author Share Posted December 31, 2004 See you in 3 to 4 years then... Thanks for posting. Nah, I'll be here with all you other marks rooting for the Sox to do well in 2005. We have a lot of new players, so I guess you never know for sure what could happen. It could turn out really well..or it could be complete disaster. Like someone said, the Angels and Marlins came out of nowhere to win it all - but at the same time, nobody (including their fans) were expecting it. We've got a ton of question marks (granted, most teams do, but still). 3 of our 5 starters are the biggest question marks of all. Garland's a mental midget, Contreras isn't much better, and El Duque is a walking injury. All 3 could be sub-.500 and have ERAs of 5+. At the same time, all 3 could win in the teens and have ERAs in the low 4's. Will Frank be healthy? Will Konerko come close to his 2004 numbers? How about Rowand? Will Jermaine Dye revert back to his Kansas City glory days, or will he be oft-injured and a flop? If one of our starters (like El Duque) goes down, who will be the sacrificial lamb trotted out for slaughter? Can Crede hit above .230? Lots of things could go horribly wrong. But, like I said, I'll be right here with you all cheering them on and supporting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Nah, I'll be here with all you other marks rooting for the Sox to do well in 2005. We have a lot of new players, so I guess you never know for sure what could happen. It could turn out really well..or it could be complete disaster. Like someone said, the Angels and Marlins came out of nowhere to win it all - but at the same time, nobody (including their fans) were expecting it. We've got a ton of question marks (granted, most teams do, but still). 3 of our 5 starters are the biggest question marks of all. Garland's a mental midget, Contreras isn't much better, and El Duque is a walking injury. All 3 could be sub-.500 and have ERAs of 5+. At the same time, all 3 could win in the teens and have ERAs in the low 4's. Will Frank be healthy? Will Konerko come close to his 2004 numbers? How about Rowand? Will Jermaine Dye revert back to his Kansas City glory days, or will he be oft-injured and a flop? If one of our starters (like El Duque) goes down, who will be the sacrificial lamb trotted out for slaughter? Can Crede hit above .230? Lots of things could go horribly wrong. But, like I said, I'll be right here with you all cheering them on and supporting them. First off, Garland is anything but a question mark. The question surrounding el duque has nothing to do with his pitching ability it's just keeping him healthy. I also think it's utterly ridiculous for you to make a list of question marks we have because you can do that with any team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted December 31, 2004 Author Share Posted December 31, 2004 First off, Garland is anything but a question mark. The question surrounding el duque has nothing to do with his pitching ability it's just keeping him healthy. I also think it's utterly ridiculous for you to make a list of question marks we have because you can do that with any team. OK, so Garland's not a question mark - we can expect him to underachieve yet again and crumble under pressure as per usual. Good deal. Well, moving onto El Duque. So every pitch he throws could be his last, I guess, since it's "just" injury that we have to worry about. That's reassuring. :rolly And I believe I pointed out that most teams have a ton of question marks. Did you skip over that disclaimer? All my question marks are very valid concerns, and that's why I'm not as overly excited as some of the people on here are. Someone was saying something about getting to the playoffs and challenging the Yankees. The Yanks would obliterate the Sox. Just want to give those blind fans a heads up so they don't get their hearts broken come October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted December 31, 2004 Author Share Posted December 31, 2004 Just to throw my 2 cents in, if there was any team in the last 4 years that I would bet on doing something in the playoffs, this would prob be it, because for once we are not going to depend on the long ball, but more pitching, are bullpen, and small ball. Those 3 things still work in the playoffs, crushing the ball doesnt always carry over into the playoffs. Yup, you're right about that. And unfortunately, those are the 3 things that the Sox have not done in recent years, and the Twins have done to perfection. We'll see if the Sox have learned some lessons from recent disappointments and do something about it. So far they've made some solid trades/signings to improve in the small ball/pitching/defense department. On paper, it looks good. But like Koch said before the 2003 season, paper doesn't win ball games. If it can all come together, this team could be dangerous. Just saying we shouldn't count on it or get our hopes up. Too many variables to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 OK, so Garland's not a question mark - we can expect him to underachieve yet again and crumble under pressure as per usual. Good deal. Well, moving onto El Duque. So every pitch he throws could be his last, I guess, since it's "just" injury that we have to worry about. That's reassuring. :rolly And I believe I pointed out that most teams have a ton of question marks. Did you skip over that disclaimer? All my question marks are very valid concerns, and that's why I'm not as overly excited as some of the people on here are. Someone was saying something about getting to the playoffs and challenging the Yankees. The Yanks would obliterate the Sox. Just want to give those blind fans a heads up so they don't get their hearts broken come October. Garland isn't a question mark because we know exactly what we're getting from him. As far as El duque of course his health is a concern, I'm just saying when healthy there is no doubting his ability. Also I did happen to miss your disclaimer, sorry about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted December 31, 2004 Author Share Posted December 31, 2004 Garland isn't a question mark because we know exactly what we're getting from him. As far as El duque of course his health is a concern, I'm just saying when healthy there is no doubting his ability. Also I did happen to miss your disclaimer, sorry about that You're alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 but just when I start to almost get excited about the Sox in 2005, I come back to reality..does anyone honestly think that if the Sox manage to make it to the playoffs, that things will be any different than they've been in the past? We choke every year at some point, and if we had to go into Yankee Stadium in October, it would be absolutely humiliating. I'm looking forward to the season and think this has the potential to be the best Sox team in years, BUT we are no where near capable of beating somebody in October, and I think we should all keep that in mind and not get our hopes up too much. Hopefully we can play well from the outset, have a good attendance, and build on it for next season. That's the only chance we've got IMO. Hopefully, by 2008 or 2009, we'll be able to field a team with players that aren't afraid of success. I'd say we're on the right track (finally), but it's going to be a slow process. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Randy Quaid character from Major League 2!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted December 31, 2004 Author Share Posted December 31, 2004 Ladies and Gentlemen, the Randy Quaid character from Major League 2!!!! Is that a good thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Ladies and Gentlemen, the Randy Quaid character from Major League 2!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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