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VERY true comment about Sandberg's clean uniform.

He'd slide on the bases, but RARE indeed was the defensive dive.

To this day, every time I see a second baseman miss a ball to his right with a wave of the glove, I think "Ahhhh, the Sandberg Wave..." :D

 

Sandberg was a very good hitter and an above-average defensive 2B, but IMO he should stand right alongside Ron Santo....on the outside looking in....

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Another guy on the bubble. One issue is how much value to place on being a "complete" player. Could be he judged just in his offense and the defense be icing on the cake?

 

This becomes more interesting when you try to evaluate a DH.

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QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 2, 2005 -> 12:05 PM)
Another guy on the bubble. One issue is how much value to place on being a "complete" player. Could be he judged just in his offense and the defense be icing on the cake?

 

This becomes more interesting when you try to evaluate a DH.

 

Yeah, DHs are gonna be tough to guage. I think for DHs, their individual numbers/awards are going to carry a lot of weight, such as leading the league in HRs and RBIs, All-Star teams, etc.

Sandberg will have to rely on his bat and his somewhat misleading errorless streak to lift him into the Hall. I do think he'll get in, regardless of my opinion of him ( very very good but not great ).

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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 2, 2005 -> 02:26 PM)
I am a big believer that they need to get the closers into the HOF before they even look at Sandberg.  Guys like Gossage, Sutter, and Lee Smith owned the game in a way that Ryno never did.

 

Do you think we need to get a closer in before a DH gets in?

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QUOTE(MurcieOne @ Jan 2, 2005 -> 04:02 PM)
Isnt Eckersly get in last year?

Yes, but there are more guys who I feel deserve it than Ryne Sandburg. I think one, maybe two players at most should get in a year (with exceptions to extroadianry years). The HOF is and should always be special. I feel it is becoming too watered down. Every player in the league now seems to be HOF bound. All the talk of the Yankees with a full roster of HOF players is terrible.

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