LowerCaseRepublican Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 admits that he is biased toward the war! He actually comes out and says it. HAHAHAHAHAHA http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82504,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfficerKarkovice Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 admits that he is biased toward the war! He actually comes out and says it. HAHAHAHAHAHA http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82504,00.html I don't see a problem with that at all. He can still unbiasedly perform his job while having a personal opinion on the war. There is no reason that we should believe the two conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjmarte Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 You say I wear my biases on my sleeve. Well, better that than pretend you have none, but show them clearly in your work. Is it possible to not have an opinion? I'd much rather know where a journalist is coming from than have them pretend they are "unbiased". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted April 4, 2003 Author Share Posted April 4, 2003 Doesn't FOX News parade around saying that their news is "fair and balanced" and the truth? How can it be fair if it is openly biased? That is what I was trying to show...the hilarity of their hypocrisy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjmarte Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 Doesn't FOX News parade around saying that their news is "fair and balanced" and the truth? How can it be fair if it is openly biased? That is what I was trying to show...the hilarity of their hypocrisy. They purposefully don't claim to be unbiased. That is the point, they won't feed you one side of the story and yet claim to be unbiased. Rather they try to present both sides. I'm not about to get into an argument over whether or not they succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted April 4, 2003 Author Share Posted April 4, 2003 They purposefully don't claim to be unbiased. That is the point, they won't feed you one side of the story and yet claim to be unbiased. Rather they try to present both sides. I'm not about to get into an argument over whether or not they succeed. The key word is that they TRY to present both sides. They usually demean and minimize the left and glorify and pontificate on the right. I'd like to think it was just an error every once in a while but it seems very institutionalized in the FOX News. They claim to be fair and balanced yet they obviously promote the agenda of the right (as a lot of other media does, but for some reason FOX does it so much more fervently...still trying to wonder why myself) I mean, I know the companies that own the media sources, I don't really know why FOX would be so fervent to promote the right though more than any of the other corporate news in America. Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 foxnews has made no bones about the fact they were pulling for america in this war..they came right out and said it...they were honest...how many journalists at cnn and msnbc are also pulling for the usa to win???...less peter arnett of course but if you watch all three they all broke the same stories , good or bad(what little there was) , when they happened..the difference comes in downtime...in the networks experts opinion of whats going on....cnn has a guy that says..ohh we are pinned down here and cant move...while fox might call it a small squirmish...also cnn might run a piece on how iraqis demonstrate against the US while fox shows some iraqi kicking the crap out of a picture of saddam... but the facts are foxnews called this war right...they said all along this was going as planned..all their experts called it perfect...cnn had guys on there saying it will be a year till we get to baghdad ...one guy even suggested if things got bad enough we would resort to using nukes as far as msnbc...god their coverage suck..boring..and they seemed to always be the last of the three to get breaking stories.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted April 4, 2003 Author Share Posted April 4, 2003 foxnews has made no bones about the fact they were pulling for america in this war..they came right out and said it...they were honest...how many journalists at cnn and msnbc are also pulling for the usa to win???...less peter arnett of course but if you watch all three they all broke the same stories , good or bad(what little there was) , when they happened..the difference comes in downtime...in the networks experts opinion of whats going on....cnn has a guy that says..ohh we are pinned down here and cant move...while fox might call it a small squirmish...also cnn might run a piece on how iraqis demonstrate against the US while fox shows some iraqi kicking the crap out of a picture of saddam... but the facts are foxnews called this war right...they said all along this was going as planned..all their experts called it perfect...cnn had guys on there saying it will be a year till we get to baghdad ...one guy even suggested if things got bad enough we would resort to using nukes as far as msnbc...god their coverage suck..boring..and they seemed to always be the last of the three to get breaking stories.. I have no problem with them wanting America to win. They can hold those opinions PERSONALLY. When doing a job in the media, they should at least attempt the illusion of objectivity. When they have the banner ad saying "Fair and balanced reporting!" and then Neil Cavuto saying "Am I slanted and biased? You're damn right I am" I find that hypocritical and, honestly, pretty goddamn amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 foxnews has made no bones about the fact they were pulling for america in this war..they came right out and said it...they were honest...how many journalists at cnn and msnbc are also pulling for the usa to win???...less peter arnett of course but if you watch all three they all broke the same stories , good or bad(what little there was) , when they happened..the difference comes in downtime...in the networks experts opinion of whats going on....cnn has a guy that says..ohh we are pinned down here and cant move...while fox might call it a small squirmish...also cnn might run a piece on how iraqis demonstrate against the US while fox shows some iraqi kicking the crap out of a picture of saddam... but the facts are foxnews called this war right...they said all along this was going as planned..all their experts called it perfect...cnn had guys on there saying it will be a year till we get to baghdad ...one guy even suggested if things got bad enough we would resort to using nukes as far as msnbc...god their coverage suck..boring..and they seemed to always be the last of the three to get breaking stories.. I have no problem with them wanting America to win. They can hold those opinions PERSONALLY. When doing a job in the media, they should at least attempt the illusion of objectivity. When they have the banner ad saying "Fair and balanced reporting!" and then Neil Cavuto saying "Am I slanted and biased? You're damn right I am" I find that hypocritical and, honestly, pretty goddamn amusing. I still don't see why he can't be biased, yet report unobjectively. That's like Vin Scully doing Dodger games on network TV. You KNOW he's biased towards LA, but he was basically nuetral when doing one of their games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 I am liking Fox coverage better than CNN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted April 4, 2003 Author Share Posted April 4, 2003 I still don't see why he can't be biased, yet report unobjectively. That's like Vin Scully doing Dodger games on network TV. You KNOW he's biased towards LA, but he was basically nuetral when doing one of their games. The thing is that he and FOX pride themselves on "fair and balanced" reporting. When he admits that he is going to slant the information because he is "slanted and biased", then that compromises the integrity of journalism. There is a difference between baseball and foreign policy/war. This is on a much larger scale with important issues and peoples' lives are at stake. FOX is just so fair and balanced. I'm surprised CW hasn't gotten in on this and laughed his ass off yet either. Where you at, CWSox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 I still don't see why he can't be biased, yet report unobjectively. That's like Vin Scully doing Dodger games on network TV. You KNOW he's biased towards LA, but he was basically nuetral when doing one of their games. The thing is that he and FOX pride themselves on "fair and balanced" reporting. When he admits that he is going to slant the information because he is "slanted and biased", then that compromises the integrity of journalism. There is a difference between baseball and foreign policy/war. This is on a much larger scale with important issues and peoples' lives are at stake. FOX is just so fair and balanced. I'm surprised CW hasn't gotten in on this and laughed his ass off yet either. Where you at, CWSox? I didn't see when he said this. Your original post says he admitted the HE was biased. It said nothing about him going to slant the information. Now, did he say that, or just that HE was biased? As for the Vin Scully comment, give me a break. Of course, there's a big difference between baseball and war. I was using that as an EXAMPLE of someone that can be biased and not let that influence their coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 TV coverage has made me sick. Christ, last night I saw a graphic on MSNBC about what the rescued POW wanted to eat for her first meal home. I'd been mainly watching that channel because it seemed the least Wargasmic of all the news nets. A couple of things I've been dying to point out. 1. Questioning the risks that the US warplan left - is not the same as saying the war plan has failed. Especially when you have some very well informed commentators at places like CNN, including Clark - who was Supreme Commander of NATO during the 1990s. That's just called asking a tough question. And that's what the media's role is. 2. If a news net has to remind you that they are fair and balanced every five minutes, they probably aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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