quickman Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 02:19 AM) Apparantly she doesn't think we are as complex as we think we are. ahh the cave man syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 08:21 PM) i have a life, and a condo in michigan at a ski resort. therefore I am sking. Kind of the family thing to do. i will see the sox fail all summer. whats your dad looking for? give him a call, i'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(Beastly @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 02:27 AM) give him a call, i'm not sure. actually, ask him to email me. We can get together fro breakfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Ok, we have hijacked this thread, back on track here. Now that LoDuca has re-entered my stream of consciousness, there really aren't many teams out there who need a #1 catcher. This will all come down to where this guy wants to play, and how much playing time he expects to get. If AJP is indeed mulling over the Sox offer as Levine reported, that means he didn't reject it outright. It is so damn quiet, and that's why I think the Sox will have two signings very shortly. I need to clip out the articles for Dad in Arizona. 75th b-day present, Sox sign Pierzynski. I will not comment on the politically incorrect manner in which he inquired about Pierzynski's status over the phone today, suffice it to say he was born and raised in Bridgeport though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 02:28 AM) Ok, we have hijacked this thread, back on track here. Now that LoDuca has re-entered my stream of consciousness, there really aren't many teams out there who need a #1 catcher. This will all come down to where this guy wants to play, and how much playing time he expects to get. If AJP is indeed mulling over the Sox offer as Levine reported, that means he didn't reject it outright. It is so damn quiet, and that's why I think the Sox will have two signings very shortly. I need to clip out the articles for Dad in Arizona. 75th b-day present, Sox sign Pierzynski. I will not comment on the politically incorrect manner in which he inquired about Pierzynski's status over the phone today, suffice it to say he was born and raised in Bridgeport though. i have got to take a stab at this. they better get that damn pollack signed, god damn it.... just trying to give everyone a view of your old man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 i have got to take a stab at this. they better get that damn pollack signed, god damn it.... just trying to give everyone a view of your old man. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not that far off. Not wanting to offend anyone here, remember this is coming from a 75 yr. old lifelong Sox fan, stranded in Arizona, looking for White Sox news. I quote: "Any news on the Pollack catcher? What about the Jap 2nd baseman?" I told him if they'd sign Iguchi, they'd have to do something with Harris. I quote: "Who gives a s***." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 02:35 AM) Not that far off. Not wanting to offend anyone here, remember this is coming from a 75 yr. old lifelong Sox fan, stranded in Arizona, looking for White Sox news. I quote: "Any news on the Pollack catcher? What about the Jap 2nd baseman?" I told him if they'd sign Iguchi, they'd have to do something with Harris. I quote: "Who gives a s***." Just remember the apple doesn't fall far from the tree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Just remember the apple doesn't fall far from the tree <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm told by many I take after my mother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 08:35 PM) "Any news on the Pollack catcher? What about the Jap 2nd baseman?" I told him if they'd sign Iguchi, they'd have to do something with Harris. I quote: "Who gives a s***." That would make a good banner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 According to this weeks Sports Weekly, the Sox offer to AJ was a 1 yr, $2 mill deal. If no one else has made a similar offer, fine. But he's worth at least $2.75, $3 mill a yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 i'd be shocked if AJ couldn't fetch an offer for more than $2 million. if that's the case, there have to be other issues we don't know about. it's very strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 I think LAD is our only competition for AJP. If you look at the other teams most of them are set at C. Those that are not have less to offer than the CWS. The RJ trade is done. What remains is the Green for Navarro trade. If that goes down then there CWS becomes the only viable place for AJP. KW does not have to rush with this. That gives him a solid advantage over AJ in the negotiations. This is an enhancement & not a need. The best thing that happened in this off-season is that the small-mid revenue teams like CIN, PIT, MIL, DET, TOR have already spent the money. Most of the big market teams don't need a 2B, or C. That leaves the lowest revenue teams & the LAD the only real competition for the CWS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 According to this weeks Sports Weekly, the Sox offer to AJ was a 1 yr, $2 mill deal. If no one else has made a similar offer, fine. But he's worth at least $2.75, $3 mill a yr. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Would AJ accept 7M/3? I think that's fair & given AJ's health & performance history the gain of having him outweighs the risk of him failing expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 09:04 PM) I think LAD is our only competition for AJP. If you look at the other teams most of them are set at C. Those that are not have less to offer than the CWS. The RJ trade is done. What remains is the Green for Navarro trade. If that goes down then there CWS becomes the only viable place for AJP. KW does not have to rush with this. That gives him a solid advantage over AJ in the negotiations. This is an enhancement & not a need. The best thing that happened in this off-season is that the small-mid revenue teams like CIN, PIT, MIL, DET, TOR have already spent the money. Most of the big market teams don't need a 2B, or C. That leaves the lowest revenue teams & the LAD the only real competition for the CWS. I'd be very surprised if he went to LA. LA fans give their players a lot of s***, and he'd face the Giants 19 times. Why put yourself through that kind of crap? Come back to the AL central and put up some good numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 08:54 PM) i'd be shocked if AJ couldn't fetch an offer for more than $2 million. if that's the case, there have to be other issues we don't know about. it's very strange Very strange indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 I think Tampa is also competing for AJP. Qwerty said he was from that area so they may have some advantage there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 I think Tampa is also competing for AJP. Qwerty said he was from that area so they may have some advantage there. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well that would make sense. TAM is basically a stop-over for MLB players. No one stays there. So if the CWS is only offering a 1 yr deal the stop-over makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 With absolutely no other catching prospects in the system that will be able to be a contributor in the majors for a few years, there's no reason not to give A.J. a 2 yr deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 08:44 PM) According to this weeks Sports Weekly, the Sox offer to AJ was a 1 yr, $2 mill deal. If no one else has made a similar offer, fine. But he's worth at least $2.75, $3 mill a yr. I think Sports Weekly is a good magazine, but a lot of the info is usually a week or two old... WSCR said the Sox are still talking to AJ's agent... That might have been their opening offer. KW likes option years, so I wouldn't be suprised if the Sox nab either one of these two players, option years are involved. (FWIW, I think option years are a great way to go) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 04:59 PM) I think Sports Weekly is a good magazine, but a lot of the info is usually a week or two old... WSCR said the Sox are still talking to AJ's agent... That might have been their opening offer. KW likes option years, so I wouldn't be suprised if the Sox nab either one of these two players, option years are involved. (FWIW, I think option years are a great way to go) yeah i like the idea too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) With absolutely no other catching prospects in the system that will be able to be a contributor in the majors for a few years, there's no reason not to give A.J. a 2 yr deal. This is true. Especially with the fact that KW gave Sandy Alomar Jr. 2 years a couple of years ago at over $2 million per, and at that point he could barely walk. AJ is far superior to what Sandy was when he came to the Sox. I saw Sandy at the Boston hotel in September 2003. My wife noticed how bad he was limping and wondered how he could play. You really have to give Sandy credit, he really has nothing left, physically. He a big man but his knees are so cashed he has no power. He can't throw, his game calling is vastly overrated (the team era when he is catching is usually higher than it is when someone else is. In fact, during his prime in Cleveland, the team era was almost a run a game higher a few seasons) But he still makes himself at least a marginally valuable guy on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASHWOUND Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Getting these two(AJP, Iguchi ) will greatly raise our teams chances of winning....Come on Kenny..break open the piggy bank and get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 09:27 PM) I think Tampa is also competing for AJP. Qwerty said he was from that area so they may have some advantage there. TB has only a few million and two or three other spots to fill--2b, OF. They have Toby Hall at C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 10:59 PM) I think Sports Weekly is a good magazine, but a lot of the info is usually a week or two old... WSCR said the Sox are still talking to AJ's agent... That might have been their opening offer. KW likes option years, so I wouldn't be suprised if the Sox nab either one of these two players, option years are involved. (FWIW, I think option years are a great way to go) I'd like to think this was only the first offer. A 2nd offer would be more in line w/ what AJ deserves. Yet I've only heard of one offer to AJ, after KW "re-thought" AJ's fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 09:43 PM) With absolutely no other catching prospects in the system that will be able to be a contributor in the majors for a few years, there's no reason not to give A.J. a 2 yr deal. Good point. If they don't offer a 2 yr deal, it must be that they aren't sure he'll be a good fit on the sox. The Sox certainly don't have any guys beating down the doors in AA or AAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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