WHarris1 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Please dont be Wade Wilson, hire someone with OC experience damnit. Mike Martz would be good, but I doubt he goes anywhere after making the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credepopsup Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 04:15 PM) Please dont be Wade Wilson, hire someone with OC experience damnit. Mike Martz would be good, but I doubt he goes anywhere after making the playoffs. I've heard the name John Ramsdell linked with it. He's the quarterbacks coach at St Louis. No OC experience though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 God damnit. Just offer Norm Chow like 100 mil and get it done. How sweet would Norm Chow be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 How about we get one of Tom Moore's students. This guys brings offense every single place he goes. His system is proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 10:15 PM) Mike Martz would be good So, the franchise that was built upon defense and rushing brings in Mike Martz, a guy who is completely dense when it comes to both. That is a match made in heaven, let me tell ya. As an offensive coordinator, decisions that you make have an enormous effect on your team's defense. Compulsive gambling is gonna catch up with you sooner or later, especially with the type of offensive team that we have. We're gonna have to run the ball a s***load, and that is NOT Martz's game. He'd kick ass at Florida State or USC or wherever, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Yeah, you're right, but Mike Martz is a damn good OC...for teams that aren't going to rely on the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Article at ESPN.com says there will be 8 offensive corridantor (sp?) positions open, so since the Bears are super cheap it should be interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Yeah, we'll end up with someone s***ty with no experience, a la Shea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 like maybe the ravens offensive coordinator who was just fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 If I were Angelo, I'd grab someone from the Belechik/Moore tree. Get a guy in here who knows what's going on. Get a guy in here who understands that week-to-week change is neccessary. Shea's scheme was good when we had everyone healthy -- but when our O-Line started to suck and get injured, he made no changes. I'm so glad he got the axe, though. We need a smart coach in here. We also need a coach who isn't stubborn. Forcing square pegs into rounds holes doesn't work in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 were better off without one because are offense sucks and no coordinator is going to change that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 If I recall the Ravens OC is a former Bears assistant from the Wanny years. Linehan, the Vikings OC, is a free agent and could be a good acquisition. There was a period where many thought he'd be an oustanding head coach. IT should be interesting, but Fassel and Norm Chow are other guys plus Norv Turner and you could even see them interview Ron Turner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 If we hired Norm Chow, I'd be one happy dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(dasox24 @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 03:19 PM) I think this was a good move. However, I don't like how the offense has to learn a new offense again this offseason. Hopefully we'll hire a guy that does a good job, and we'll have some stability for a while from the O-coordinator position. i would think they''re going to try and hire someone that knows basically the same system they ran this year. That system worked pretty well...just wasn't implemented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 I don't think this means its going to necessarily be a guy from the Rams or Chiefs. I think the basic idea is they want to run an agressive offense. The key to me is, implement slant routes, don't let your qb sit and die. Make sure you stick with the run, call the ocassional RB screen, call the toss plays to the outside from time to time and also throw deep slants and other deeper routes. Utilize the TE as well. I don't get why coaches try to get so creative, like Shea I don't know what the hell he was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 If I had to sit through that f***ing fake reverse one more time I was gonna snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 I think the Bears should bring in Ron Turner. They had a pretty good offense when he was OC before taking the Illinois job. I think he's a good coach, just couldn't recruit in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 The guy the Bears should really go after is the Vikings OC Scott Linehan, although I've heard New England is pretty hot on him to replace Charlie Weis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 initially I heard they wanted a similar scheme, but heard Lovie comment on how he wants a run first offense, so that may not fit the Shea school of offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 02:48 AM) If I had to sit through that f***ing fake reverse one more time I was gonna snap. I think he would be a good fit too. He can't be worse than Shea, god it was so damn frustrating listening to Troy Aikmen make fun of us the whole game, even though they deserved it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 02:37 AM) If I recall the Ravens OC is a former Bears assistant from the Wanny years. Linehan, the Vikings OC, is a free agent and could be a good acquisition. There was a period where many thought he'd be an oustanding head coach. IT should be interesting, but Fassel and Norm Chow are other guys plus Norv Turner and you could even see them interview Ron Turner. Good point on Fassel, Jason. He always struck me as a smart football guy, and he seems like the kind of guy who'd be able to fire up our offense a bit. The offense was never the problem with Fassel's Giants, IIRC. And, when he took control of the offense, it flourished under his playcalling. I can't comment on Turner because I don't remember his days as an OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 12:17 AM) Good point on Fassel, Jason. He always struck me as a smart football guy, and he seems like the kind of guy who'd be able to fire up our offense a bit. The offense was never the problem with Fassel's Giants, IIRC. And, when he took control of the offense, it flourished under his playcalling. I can't comment on Turner because I don't remember his days as an OC. Right now it seems like Fassel is going to become the next Ravens OC. If the bears don't get Linehan, they could possibly look at Brad Childrees the Eagles OC, as he could leave if he doesn't get a head coaching job and then Marty Morhninweg would take over as the Eagles OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 07:31 AM) Right now it seems like Fassel is going to become the next Ravens OC. If the bears don't get Linehan, they could possibly look at Brad Childrees the Eagles OC, as he could leave if he doesn't get a head coaching job and then Marty Morhninweg would take over as the Eagles OC. i could careless who they get, you cant have a good offense unless you have good players, i fail to see the spark in this offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Remember, its quite unlikely to get a guy thats a current OC unless his contract is up. For example the Eagles aren't going to let Childress just go and I highly doubt Childress gives up what he has in Philly to join the Bears rank. However an odd rumor going around is that the Bears are hot after Chargers OC Cam Cleeland. I have no idea if his contract is up or not. Linehan however made 300K last year and his contract is up. You know Tice's job is in jeapordy and McCombs is cheap (Tice only made like a million) and I highly doubt he'll give Linehan as good of an offer as he can get somewhere else. As far as Norv Turner goes. He's a WC guy and if you want to know how he runs his schemes take a look at the Raiders, who were pretty solid offensively once Collins settled in. They didn't even have much offensive talent either. Turner was also an OC in Miami and of course had his head coaching tenure in Washington (then he went to Miami and eventually Oakland). Turner runs a west coast offense and has used two variations of it. One focused on the run which was when he had Ricky in Miami, although there offense was still more then capable. It was how that team was built and the other molded around the pass. Then his brother Ron Turner, who got the can from Illinois, left the Bears for U of I and was probably the designer of one of the Bears best offenses, one that improved each of his 4 years on the job. Conway/Graham were the only Bears duo to each catch for 1000 yards in the same season with Kramer at the helm. I also think he was there the year Walsh led the Bears into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 01:31 PM) Right now it seems like Fassel is going to become the next Ravens OC. If the bears don't get Linehan, they could possibly look at Brad Childrees the Eagles OC, as he could leave if he doesn't get a head coaching job and then Marty Morhninweg would take over as the Eagles OC. Billick is saying that he thinks Fassel will get an opportunity to be a head coach. You don't think so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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