Top 25 Sox Teams

[Texsox]

Found this and thought it was interesting. Just one fans opinion. Looked pretty well thought out and reasonably in order.

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Here's my choices for the top 25 Chicago White Sox teams of all time.

 

# 25 - 1972 WHITE SOX

Had to get Dick Allen's boys on here, they were 87-67 (+28) and gave the A's a

scare that year, finally finishing 5 1/2 games out. Allen threatened to win the

triple crown at .308 37-113 in this pitching dominated year (league ERA

3.07). Dick (don't call me Richie) led in HRs and RBIs, while Carew took the

batting title at .318 (Piniella was in between Rod and Dick, who finished 3rd).

 

MVP VOTING

Dick Allen - 1st

Wilbur Wood - 7th

Carlos May - 21st

 

# 24 - 1990 WHITE SOX

Nice season (94-68 +49) as they finished 9 games behind Oakland. Bobby Thigpen

with a (still) record 57 saves.

 

MVP VOTING

Bobby Thigpen - 5th

Carlton Fisk - 15th

Ozzie Guillen - 17th

 

# 23 - 1967 WHITE SOX

Team went 89-73 (+ 40) and was in it until the last couple days of the season

as the A.L. had a wild 4 team race that year. Great pitching staff allowed a

league low 491 runs on the season.

 

MVP VOTING

Joel Horlen - 4th

Gary Peters - 9th

Ron Hansen - 14th

 

# 22 - 1916 WHITE SOX

Team was 89-65 (+104), finishing two games behind the eventual world champion

Red Sox. Led the league with 100 triples (only Detroit (96) had even 70).

 

MVP VOTING

No vote this year - Top players were Joe Jackson, Eddie Collins and Happy

Felsch.

 

# 21 - 1956 WHITE SOX

Won fewer games than they should have (85-69) given their run differential

(+142). Finished 3rd, 12 games behind the Yankees, and 3 behind Cleveland. The

team led the league with a measly 70 stolen bases.

 

MVP VOTING

Billy Pierce - 5th

Nellie Fox - 14th

Sherm Lollar - 16th

 

# 20 - 1960 WHITE SOX

Defending A.L. champs went 87-67 (+124) and finished 3rd, ten games back. Led

the league in batting and OBP, and had almost twice the stolen bases of any

other team.

 

MVP VOTING

Minnie Minoso - 4th

Al Smith - 6th

Roy Sievers - 7th

Nellie Fox - 18th

Luis Aparicio - 21st

 

# 19 - 1965 WHITE SOX

Only 4 other White Sox teams ever won as many games as this overachieving team

(95-67 +92). They finished 2nd, 7 games behind the Twins. Early signs of how

important a great closer can be, as Eddie Fisher went 15-7 with 24 saves,

appearing in 82 games, ALL in relief.

 

MVP VOTING

Eddie Fisher - 4th

Ron Hansen - 18th

 

# 18 - 1953 WHITE SOX

Finished 89-65 (+ 124) in a tough league, 3rd place, 11 1/2 behind New York.

Led the league in pitcher's strikeouts (714) and fewest batter strikeouts

(530).

 

MVP VOTING

Minnie Minoso - 4th

Virgil Trucks - 5th

Billy Pierce - 10th

 

# 17 - 1905 WHITE SOX

Finished at 92-60 (+161) just two games behind Connie Mack's Athletics, this

team led the league with a 1.99 team ERA.

 

MVP VOTING

No vote this year - Top players were Fielder Jones, George Davis and Nick

Altrock.

 

# 16 - 1963 WHITE SOX

Team was 94-68 (+ 139) but were 10 1/2 games behind a great Yankee team. Pete

Ward was second in total bases, and Peters led the league in ERA.

 

MVP VOTING

Gary Peters - 8th

Pete Ward - 9th

 

# 15 - 2000 WHITE SOX

Central division champs were a league best 95-67 (+ 139), but were wiped out in

three straight by Seattle in the first round of the playoffs.

 

MVP VOTING

Frank Thomas - 2nd

Maglio Ordonez - 12th

 

# 14 - 1993 WHITE SOX

Western Division winners went 94-68 (+112) with Black Jack McDowell as the

league's only 20 game winner (22) as the staff had the league's lowest ERA.

Lost the ALCS to Toronto in 6 games.

 

MVP VOTING

Frank Thomas - 1st

Jack McDowell - 9th

Alex Fernandez - 21st

 

# 13 - 1957 WHITE SOX

Team went 90-64 (+141) finishing 8 games behind New York as the historically

underrated Billy Pierce won 20 games.

 

MVP VOTING

Nellie Fox - 4th

Minnie Minoso - 8th

Billy Pierce - 11th

Dick Donovan - 13th

 

# 12 - 1915 WHITE SOX

The best RD (+ 208) in franchise history produced a 93-61 record, but only a

third place finish behind Boston and Detroit in a weakened American League, as

many players had jumped to the Federal League.

 

MVP VOTING

No vote this year - Top players included Eddie Collins, Jack Fournier, Jim

Scott, Red Faber and Buck Weaver.

 

# 11 - 1955 WHITE SOX

Excellent season (91-63 +168) as they finished in 3rd place just 5 games

behind a very good Yankee team. Billy Pierce led the league with an unheard of

(at that time) 1.97 ERA.

 

MVP VOTING

Nellie Fox - 7th

Sherm Lollar - 18th

Billy Pierce - 18th

 

# 10 - 1994 WHITE SOX

"Won" the Central division in this strike shortened year (67-46 +135) as "The

Big Hurt" took his second consecutive MVP award home. Pitching staff had the

league's only sub 4.00 ERA (3.97).

 

MVP VOTING

Frank Thomas - 1st

Julio Franco - 8th

 

# 9 - 1901 WHITE SOX

Won the first A.L. pennant in a league that was probably slightly below major

league level in this inaugural season. Team was 83-53 (+188). Led the league

in runs scored and in ERA.

 

MVP VOTING

No vote this year - Top players were Clark Griffith, Dummy Hoy, Nixey Callahan,

Fielder Jones, Sam Mertes and the long forgotten Herm McFarland, all who who

had 21 or more win shares.

 

# 8 - 1964 WHITE SOX

Only 2 White Sox teams ever won more games than this squad (98-64 +143) that

finished one game behind the Yankees this season. They didn't win because of a

"June Swoon" where they lost 9 games to the Yankees in an 11 day span.

 

MVP VOTING

Pete Ward - 6th

Gary Peters - 8th

Floyd Robinson - 15th

Ron Hansen - 16th

Juan Pizzaro - 19th (tie)

Hoyt Wilhelm - 19th (tie)

Joel Horlen - 21st

 

# 7 - 1954 WHITE SOX

In a league with two other awesome teams they still managed to go 94-60 (+190)

and finish 18 games :-) behind the Indians. The other 5 teams in the league ALL

played under .450 baseball.

 

MVP VOTING

Minnie Minoso - 4th

Nellie Fox - 9th

Virgil Trucks - 12th

 

# 6 - 1983 WHITE SOX

Tony LaRussa's Western Division champs went 99-63 (+150) scoring a league

leading 800 runs despite a team OPS+ of just 100. They hit very well in the

clutch and had good pitching. After a 2-1 victory in game one of the ALCS, they

were then outscored 18 to 1 by the Orioles in losing the next three games.

 

MVP VOTING

Carlton Fisk - 3rd

Harold Baines - 10th

Lamar Hoyt - 13th

Greg Luzinski - 17th

Richard Dotson - 20th

Rudy Law - 21st

 

# 5 - 1920 WHITE SOX

Playing all year in the shadow of the scandal from the prior year's world

series didn't hurt them too much as they almost repeated as A.L. champions,

losing by 2 games to Tris Speaker's inspired (after Chapman's death) Cleveland

club. Team was 96-58 (+129) and featured FOUR twenty game winners for the

first time in history (1971 Orioles eventually did it too).

 

MVP VOTING

No vote this year - Top players were Eddie Collins, Joe Jackson, Happy Felsch,

Red Faber and Eddie Cicotte (3 of the 5 never played again after this season).

 

# 4 - 1959 WHITE SOX

The Go-Go Sox took home the team's first pennant in 40 years although they were

just 94-60 (+81) on the year. Lost the series to a fairly weak (for a pennant

winner) Dodger team (88-68 +35) in 6 games despite the heroics of Ted

Kluszewski (3 HRs, 10 RBI).

 

MVP VOTING

Nellie Fox - 1st

Luis Aparoicio - 2nd

Early Wynn - 3rd

Jim Landis - 7th

Sherm Lollar - 9th

Bob Shaw - 20th

 

# 3 - 1919 BLACK SOX

Lord knows why they were so heavily favored in the series as they were 88-52

(+133) on the year and the Reds were a much better 96-44 (+176). I guess

because the A.L. had won the last four world series at that time.

 

MVP VOTING

No vote this year - Top players were Ed Cicotte, Joe Jackson, Eddie Collins,

Lefty Williams, Happy Felsch and Buck Weaver. Only Collins was still playing

after 1920.

 

# 2 - 1906 WHITE SOX

The "Hitless Wonders" were just 93-58 (+110) on the season, but an incredible

four games to two upset of the seemingly invincible Cubs (116-36 +323) in this

year's fall classic mandates that they are ranked in this lofty position.

 

MVP VOTING

No vote this year - Top players were George Davis, Fielder Jones, Frank Isbell,

Doc White and Ed Walsh (who won 2 games in the world series).

 

# 1 - 1917 WHITE SOX

The only team in ChiSox history to win 100 games (100-54 + 192) they beat a

pretty strong Giant team (98-56 +178) for the world championship with Red

Faber going 3-1 in the series. This team had amazing pitching (ERA+ 123) with

a bunch of different hurlers who had miniscule ERA's on the year. They have

done very well in some simulated tournaments that I have run.

 

MVP VOTING

No vote this year - Top players included Ed Cicotte, Eddie Collins, Joe

Jackson, Happy Felsch (all of whom had 30 or more win shares) and also Buck

Weaver and Ray Schalk.

[greasywheels121]

Very cool Tex. Thanks for posting that; it's kind of interesting to see the '93 and '00 weren't higher in the bunch.

[elrockinMT]

Tex, that was a very ambitious project you undertook. Interesting read. I will have to ponder this for awhile.

[hammerhead johnson]

# 21 - 1956 WHITE SOX

Won fewer games than they should have (85-69) given their run differential

(+142). Finished 3rd, 12 games behind the Yankees, and 3 behind Cleveland. The

team led the league with a measly 70 stolen bases.

 

# 20 - 1960 WHITE SOX

Defending A.L. champs went 87-67 (+124) and finished 3rd, ten games back of the Yankees .

 

# 18 - 1953 WHITE SOX

Finished 89-65 (+ 124) in a tough league, 3rd place, 11 1/2 behind New York.

 

# 16 - 1963 WHITE SOX

Team was 94-68 (+ 139) but were 10 1/2 games behind a great Yankee team.

 

# 13 - 1957 WHITE SOX

Team went 90-64 (+141) finishing 8 games behind New York as the historically

underrated Billy Pierce won 20 games.

 

# 11 - 1955 WHITE SOX

Excellent season (91-63 +168) as they finished in 3rd place just 5 games

behind a very good Yankee team. Billy Pierce led the league with an unheard of

(at that time) 1.97 ERA.

 

# 8 - 1964 WHITE SOX

Only 2 White Sox teams ever won more games than this squad (98-64 +143) that

finished one game behind the Yankees this season. They didn't win because of a

"June Swoon" where they lost 9 games to the Yankees in an 11 day span.

 

For those who are unaware, there was no organized draft back then, and of course, when you're an impressionable teenager, you're going where Babe Ruth and Joe Dimaggio played, are you not? If there was ever a team that should be retracted.....

[Texsox]

Tex, that was  a very ambitious project you undertook. Interesting read. I will have to ponder this for awhile.

 

Just to be clear, I stumbled across it on another site and thought it was a very interesting summary of White Sox history.

[ChWRoCk2]

too much info for me to handle but nice

[WilliamTell]

That's some really good information Tex. Like a good portion on the people, I remember 3 of the teams, ('93, '94, and 2000.) It still hurts me to know that the Sox a great shot to win the World Series in 1994. That was a great year of baseball before the strike came.