southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/010605jackson.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I tried to read it, but I just can't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 A man who conducted drinking games with minors and surfed porn with them on a laptop in his Neverland Ranch bedroom, noting that if anyone asked what they were looking at, the kids should just say they were watching "The Simpsons." That's what I always tell my mom when she asks me what I'm doing in my room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:49 PM) I tried to read it, but I just can't do it. Is it that bad..?? SG is blocked for me from work so I can't even get to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Hose Jon Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I couldn't read anymore after the first page. It is surprissing how many people still support him even with the allegations. It is like people see him as a god. It is just sick in sooo many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:51 PM) Is it that bad..?? SG is blocked for me from work so I can't even get to it. At one point I started skimming and there was a step by step analysis (can't think of a better phrase at the moment) of how he molested one of the boys. Just couldn't read anymore of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:51 PM) Is it that bad..?? SG is blocked for me from work so I can't even get to it. It either will make you incredibly mad, sick to your stomach, or some combination of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 He is one f***ed up human. It is sad how many people confuse celebrity and fame with good and innocent :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:57 PM) He is one f***ed up human. It is sad how many people confuse celebrity and fame with good and innocent :headshake I certainly don't support his pedophile tendencies, but I will say he has given a lot to charity over the years. when it comes to things outside sex, he's a pretty decent human being. He needs some serious help. very very serious help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:52 PM) At one point I started skimming and there was a step by step analysis (can't think of a better phrase at the moment) of how he molested one of the boys. Just couldn't read anymore of it. Alrighty.. I'm gonna pass on reading it. :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 03:27 PM) I certainly don't support his pedophile tendencies, but I will say he has given a lot to charity over the years. when it comes to things outside sex, he's a pretty decent human being. He needs some serious help. very very serious help. IF any of the allegations are true: You can't separate the criminal from the crime. And make NO mistake - this isn't sex, this is crime. A crime of a sexual nature, but crime nonetheless. I don't care of he gave every dollar he ever made to charity, if he did any of this to any of those kids, he is a f***ing monster and should be locked in a cage for a very very very long time. And I don't think he's an otherwise decent human being in any way - he's a really really weird guy who happens to have a talent for singing and dancing. I think a good case can be made that his parents helped f*** him up through intimidation and the stress of helping to support the family at too young an age, but he ( or any one of his multitude of managers, publicists, etc. ) should still be able to recognize that he's a completely messed-up soul and get him the help he needs. They should have done that a looooooooooooooooooooong time ago, but they don't get their percentage if Mike's in a padded room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:52 PM) At one point I started skimming and there was a step by step analysis (can't think of a better phrase at the moment) of how he molested one of the boys. Just couldn't read anymore of it. In that case, I won't even dare to click on that link. :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:51 PM) That's what I always tell my mom when she asks me what I'm doing in my room. Does she ever ask you why "the Simpsons" is on so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 I stopped when it got too graphic. He needs to be put away for a long time. I dont give a s*** what he has given to charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 He needs to be in jail. Enogh said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 I would some of you that can't / won't read this, either stop with the condemnations or read the facts. There are a lot of holes in the accusations. FYI, I do believe he's guilty, but I'm just trying to say that you should educate yourselves about the facts of the case. Just my $0.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 09:25 AM) I would some of you that can't / won't read this, either stop with the condemnations or read the facts. There are a lot of holes in the accusations. FYI, I do believe he's guilty, but I'm just trying to say that you should educate yourselves about the facts of the case. Just my $0.02 When the jury gives the verdict, I'll be educated on the case all that I need to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 The kids can't win. I don't know which would be worse for the kids involved, to find out that all of the allegations are true, or to find out it's all BS. It's almost scarier to think that a parent could/might have put the kids up to a huge lie. Which does more psychological damage?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 10:45 AM) The kids can't win. I don't know which would be worse for the kids involved, to find out that all of the allegations are true, or to find out it's all BS. It's almost scarier to think that a parent could/might have put the kids up to a huge lie. Which does more psychological damage?? I'm not saying it's a huge lie, and I really don't believe it is. I'm just saying if you read the entire Smoking Gun story, you'll see that there's a lot of holes and strange things within their story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 09:25 AM) I would some of you that can't / won't read this, either stop with the condemnations or read the facts. There are a lot of holes in the accusations. FYI, I do believe he's guilty, but I'm just trying to say that you should educate yourselves about the facts of the case. Just my $0.02 I wasn't condemning a damn thing. I just couldn't read it. Just the fact that kids have gone through this type of thing makes this tough to read. I have no idea about any of the evidence the DA has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 11:00 AM) I wasn't condemning a damn thing. I just couldn't read it. Just the fact that kids have gone through this type of thing makes this tough to read. I have no idea about any of the evidence the DA has. Relax. I wasn't referring to you, Queen. I was talking about comments like this: stopped when it got too graphic. He needs to be put away for a long time. I dont give a s*** what he has given to charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 I know what you meant. I'm saying, if some or most of was intentionally fabricated by the parents, that would probably suck worse. QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 03:58 PM) I'm not saying it's a huge lie, and I really don't believe it is. I'm just saying if you read the entire Smoking Gun story, you'll see that there's a lot of holes and strange things within their story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 11:23 AM) I know what you meant. I'm saying, if some or most of was intentionally fabricated by the parents, that would probably suck worse. Yes it would. To have your parents sell out your dignity and self respect for a payday... :headshake :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 09:35 AM) When the jury gives the verdict, I'll be educated on the case all that I need to be. So do you believe OJ is REALLY innocent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxmatt @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 09:08 PM) Does she ever ask you why "the Simpsons" is on so much? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I bought all of the DVD's for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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