Winnin Ugly Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Today's Washington Post has the Sox as one of the finalist to get Vasquez from AZ. If the Sox can acquire him as well as a middle infielder we are going to be one of the best teams in the American League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Details?? QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 05:01 PM) Today's Washington Post has the Sox as one of the finalist to get Vasquez from AZ. If the Sox can acquire him as well as a middle infielder we are going to be one of the best teams in the American League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 05:01 PM) Today's Washington Post has the Sox as one of the finalist to get Vasquez from AZ. If the Sox can acquire him as well as a middle infielder we are going to be one of the best teams in the American League Linky? I would like to read the article, but I'm weary of the chances to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confederate_48 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Better have nothing to do with Konerko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(Confederate_48 @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 10:08 AM) Better have nothing to do with Konerko According to... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/scor...umors.hotstove/ The Diamondbacks are expected to explore opportunities to trade Javier Vazquez, acquired from the Yankees in the Johnson deal, to another team, with the Orioles, Phillies and White Sox among the leading contenders. -- Washington Post I'm not sure this is anything to make a big deal about. It sounds like speculation more than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 The Sox just get mentioned cause Kenny was once involved in the package. Because of that there names will continue to be mentioned until he's finally moved somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 The Sox could still make a deal. Not likely. Though they still have the pieces on the roster /prospects. Other teams may make some moves that leave them unable to make a deal w/ AZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Yeah, I don't wanna see Konerko's name being in the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 It reads to me like a columnist filling space. The Sox are done this off season except for maybe a low level signing or two. The Sox will not be adding an $11 million player, and they won't be tradeing Paul Konerko, end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 12:15 PM) Yeah, I don't wanna see Konerko's name being in the deal. yeah....definitely....can't lose konerko, lee, and ordonez in the same offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S720 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Is it possible to trade Garland and Konerko for Vazquez, then turn around and sign Delgado to play 1st base? Sentimentally, I do not want to trade away Garland and Konerko. But if this is the step to take the Sox to win the division and pennant, I'll reluctantly do it. Of course, the scenario can only take place if JR is willing to move up payroll a little bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(S720 @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 11:34 AM) Is it possible to trade Garland and Konerko for Vazquez, then turn around and sign Delgado to play 1st base? Sentimentally, I do not want to trade away Garland and Konerko. But if this is the step to take the Sox to win the division and pennant, I'll reluctantly do it. Of course, the scenario can only take place if JR is willing to move up payroll a little bit! Both Delgado and Vazquez will cost over $10 million each per year. So, the answer is NO f***ING WAY would this be considered. The only way Vazquez was coming here was if the Yankees were paying some of that salary. The Yankees are now out of the picture and I can't imagine the broke Diamondbacks being willing to pay some of his salary. This isn't happening. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 if Contreras was part of the deal, there's a possiblity Vasquez could still be shipped here. However, other teams will more than likely offer something more appealing to the Diamondbacks, thus rendering our chances hopeless. The rotation is fine as it is, I don't think that it needs to be re-assessed until midseason when we know exactally where we're at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Nope. Ain't happening. The D'Backs were going to get 8 million from LA in the Green deal. No way in hell they send cash along JV. No way the Sox take on that much payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 I think it's just as well that we don't get him anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(thomsonmi @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 12:38 PM) Both Delgado and Vazquez will cost over $10 million each per year. So, the answer is NO f***ING WAY would this be considered. The only way Vazquez was coming here was if the Yankees were paying some of that salary. The Yankees are now out of the picture and I can't imagine the broke Diamondbacks being willing to pay some of his salary. This isn't happening. End of story. i dont hink we would have enough space in our cap anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 06:53 PM) Nope. Ain't happening. The D'Backs were going to get 8 million from LA in the Green deal. No way in hell they send cah along JV. No way the Sox take on that much payroll. Well if they took Everett as part of the deal along with Gar and Anderson and also kick in say $1.6 mil of the $9 mil they got from NY, then financially, it's definitely doable for the Sox and for the DBacks it'd be like having NY pay for Gar and Everett to play for them. I wouldn't count on this happening but it's not out of the realm of possibilities esp. with them basically stuck with JV as they are at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 :sleep If the Sox were to trade for Vazquez, it would totally erase all the good that has been accomplished this off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 if they could do a deal like sweeney contreras and everett or a combination of those they would b great. but az probably wouldnt do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(Ishmookie @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 02:54 PM) if they could do a deal like sweeney contreras and everett or a combination of those they would b great. but az probably wouldnt do it Any deal involving either Sweeney, Anderson, or McCarthy, I'm definitely not for. Unless it is strictly a trade deadline deal for a MAJOR impact player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 That's not a bad option if you think about. Delgado is going to sign w someone below what other's have received this off-season simply because the big cash players are not in the game for his services. He expressed a desire to play for TEX so maybe he would be open to playing for CWS. Obvlously signing Delgado means trading Koney. But you are trading Koney when his value is at his highest & their is no loss of suitors for him. Think of it this way: Delgado+Vazquez+cash for Koney,Garland. The cash rcvd from AZD would reduce Delgado+Vaz to 60M/3. Koney+Garland would cost about 45M/3. The net cost is 15M/3. Impact wise these moves would push the CWS into serious AL pennant contenders. Much more than the division crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 12:15 PM) Yeah, I don't wanna see Konerko's name being in the deal. more than likely it would be. him or mccarthy, or both including garland and another prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 I really don't want Vazquez here. Does he have better "stuff" then Garland? More then likely. Does he have so much better stuff that he's worth over 6 Mil dollars more then Garland? NO WAY IN HELL! Not only that i've heard he can opt out of his contract at the end of the year if he doesn't like us or make us trade him. So if he tanks it and he forces a trade then we'd be giving Garland and whatever prospect for s***. I don't want him here. We have a pretty good idea what Garland will do, he's done it the last three years. For all we know Vazquez could get lit up in the cell. No way should we pay 6 mil more plus prospects for a maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 QUOTE(Jake @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 03:54 PM) more than likely it would be. him or mccarthy, or both including garland and another prospect So you are saying it would be Konerko, mccarthy, Garland and another prospect for Vazquez? Konerko and McCarthy are easily worth more than Vazquez. I hope i read your post wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babybearhater Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 That's not a bad option if you think about. Delgado is going to sign w someone below what other's have received this off-season simply because the big cash players are not in the game for his services. He expressed a desire to play for TEX so maybe he would be open to playing for CWS. Obvlously signing Delgado means trading Koney. But you are trading Koney when his value is at his highest & their is no loss of suitors for him. Think of it this way: Delgado+Vazquez+cash for Koney,Garland. The cash rcvd from AZD would reduce Delgado+Vaz to 60M/3. Koney+Garland would cost about 45M/3. The net cost is 15M/3. Impact wise these moves would push the CWS into serious AL pennant contenders. Much more than the division crown. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> how does wanting to play for TEX have to do anything with playing for the SOX. I cant even fathom the connection, I guess they are both in the AL, I guess that works. And he is not signing beneith his value, in fact his nagotiations with baltimore suggests he is going to get a little over market value. The hypothetical math is also off, unless we are playing xbox. There is no way this is going to happen, so forget about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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