Chisoxmatt Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 I agree i would definitly take a healthy ray durham over Polanco. Especially after seeing durham's stats last year... QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 02:06 PM) Hell just to throw it out there if the Sox wanted Rowand in the 2 hole they could put Durham in the 3 hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaiza21 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 I wish this would happen. I don't think it will . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider17 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 QUOTE(Loaiza21 @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 02:18 PM) I wish this would happen. I don't think it will . You mean like AJ? or maybe El Duque? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 What's everyone griping about? Ray Durham back with the Sox would be huge. Ray was a lot of people's favorite player when here. I loved him, still do. He brings a face back to the Sox and should help with merchandise sales and even attendence...He is also an extremely solid 2B. People want to moan and groan about losing all this power and whatnot, and now we have a chance to bring in another 20 HR guy, who gets on base, and is fast...and you guys complain? I know he makes ~6.5 mil per year, but I think it's a good bet that we'd be getting some money. Even at $5 mil per season, Ray is a great addition. Before the off season began, there were rumors that our payroll would rise to ~$75 million. Where are we at now? ~$69 million? Well this addition puts us right on that track, if indeed those rumors were true. You keep Valdez to backup Uribe, and you have yourself an extremely solid squad. KW would have address EVERY need that we had. I'd probably faint if this were to happen... It would be interesting to see what they would do with Rowand in the batting order...drop him to 3rd, 5th, 6th? Pods Durham Thomas Konerko Rowand Piersynski Dye Uribe Crede or... Pods Durham Rowand Thomas Konerko AJ Dye Crede Uribe There are sooo many combinations you can make with that lineup. It's solid from top to bottom... GET RAY RAY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Several points to consider: - I don't recall the Giants ever getting rid of a guy and paying a ton of his salary. - Durham is becoming injury prone and his defense never was that great - Supposedly there is a rift between Durham and KW, maybe Steff can add details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 04:13 PM) - Supposedly there is a rift between Durham and KW, maybe Steff can add details Steff is going on a vactation, but regarding this Durham situation I'm told there is some smoke here. They have inquired about him, no other information that than at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnin Ugly Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 It would be awesome to have Durham back on the Sox he would be a perfect guy to put in the 2nd hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAF_11F4H Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 The Sox traded Ray-Ray to the A's in '02 for ... Jon Adkins. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 QUOTE(USAF_11F4H @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 05:09 PM) The Sox traded Ray-Ray to the A's in '02 for ... Jon Adkins. Ouch. Can you say salary dump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 One thing people need to remember is that Ray gives us a lot of the HRs we have lost with the loss of Maggs, CLee and Valentin back Trust me, you still need power to win in this game, especially at our ball park Just look at Boston and the Card line up last year. Also, Ray would easily hit 25-30 dingers at the "new and improved" Cell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 QUOTE(USAF_11F4H @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 05:09 PM) The Sox traded Ray-Ray to the A's in '02 for ... Jon Adkins. Ouch. No, Ouch is the contract that Ray got after being traded. We got something for him, when he was going to be gone anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 One more point. Even if we do not get Ray right now, keep an eye open for this happening at the trade deadline if we do not get Iguchi right now Kenny is the king of making a losing team eat up salary of a vet they want to dump for prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 QUOTE(BamaDoc @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 12:03 PM) Ray was traded because we wouldn't meet his contract demands. That's complete and utter bulls***. Ray didn't have "contract demands". To reiterate Show.. there's smoke per his brother. Ray is unavaliable via phone at this time and I don't know if I'll get anything before I board the plane tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnin Ugly Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 Has their been any reports in Chicago about Ray coming back to Chicago... Here in San Fran they think the deal will go through. One of the host on KNBR thinks that the Giants wants Damaso Marte in return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 05:58 PM) Has their been any reports in Chicago about Ray coming back to Chicago... Here in San Fran they think the deal will go through. One of the host on KNBR thinks that the Giants wants Damaso Marte in return Nothing here, Steff is our insider though, and if she hear's something she'll let us know. Ugh, I like Ray, but I'm not giving up a left handed reliever like him in a trade like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 05:58 PM) Has their been any reports in Chicago about Ray coming back to Chicago... Here in San Fran they think the deal will go through. One of the host on KNBR thinks that the Giants wants Damaso Marte in return We trade marte for him i will become very pissed very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Ray here again would be interesting. Before he was always counted on to be the lead off guy and run. I think now with Rowand, Uribe, and Pod at the top he can be slid down in the order and he can focus on hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 07:02 PM) Ray here again would be interesting. Before he was always counted on to be the lead off guy and run. I think now with Rowand, Uribe, and Pod at the top he can be slid down in the order and he can focus on hitting. Very true....It always seemed he had better numbers when he wasn't leading off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Bringing Ray back would be cool. I just hope the Sox wouldn't give up too much for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 As far as who we could trade back, I would say it's safe to assume the Giants won't pay us anything. They're in no position to be sending cash in deals. So the Sox would have to deal some cash back to fit Ray in our payroll situation. Ray makes 6.5 million in 2005, Figure we have 2-3 million left to spend ourselves and we have to deal 3-3.5 million off the roster. Prospects are out since the Giants don't want them. They're outfield is set, so I can't see Carl going. Sox are no position to deal Garland unless they have a Vazquez deal on the table, or something way the hell out of left field. I'm stumped here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 11:58 PM) Has their been any reports in Chicago about Ray coming back to Chicago... Here in San Fran they think the deal will go through. One of the host on KNBR thinks that the Giants wants Damaso Marte in return too much of a price to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosox41 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 02:15 PM) Hell, on top of that he scored 95 runs in just 120 games. Hitting in front of Bonds will do that. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 yeah ray isnt worth it with what he getting paid and on top of that with them wanting marte.... maybe id do that trade if they gave us their 3B dude alfonzo or whatevr his name is... he is good and still like 26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 8, 2005 -> 06:24 PM) yeah ray isnt worth it with what he getting paid and on top of that with them wanting marte.... maybe id do that trade if they gave us their 3B dude alfonzo or whatevr his name is... he is good and still like 26. He is 31. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Marte + Harris/Valdez platoon > Durham - Marte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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