Steve Bartman's my idol Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 ESPN Insider reports that the White Sox are one of several teams that may be interested in Rich Aurelia. What do you think, if you can get him for cheap, play him at short and move Uribe to second, its better than Willie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Aurilia has been talked about on and off for a while here. It's interesting to note he's played a lot of 3B as well. I'd imagine the White Sox will be linked with just about every available veteran middle infielder until they settle on someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted January 18, 2005 Author Share Posted January 18, 2005 Sorry if I posted something that has already been posted in the past, just noticed it on ESPN today, and didn't see anything in topics about it in the last few days. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 No problem at all, was just commenting he'd been talked about by a few posters here ... thanks for posting what you saw at ESPN Insider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 he's pretty much backup material IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Aurilia has to be one guy suspected of using 'roids, after playing in SF and having a huge jump in HR's. I'd stay far away from him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubs Suck23 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Im with Beck I would stay away from Aurilia.. If we not going to get Iguchi or make a trade.I would love to see the Sox get Barry Larkin. I see that Cora hasnt sign with Clev yet do you think the sox has something to do with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 i been wondering about him and his production. has it been confirmed about the roids. if that is the case then yes, lets not even look at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 If not Iguchi, then I'm still looking at Durham, Larkin, Rollins, Polanco, & Castillo. But not at the cost of Marte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) Aurilia has been talked about on and off for a while here. It's interesting to note he's played a lot of 3B as well. I'd imagine the White Sox will be linked with just about every available veteran middle infielder until they settle on someone. Who was the first guy you heard this from this offseason? You have one guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 If not Iguchi, then I'm still looking at Durham, Larkin, Rollins, Polanco, & Castillo. But not at the cost of Marte. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Who would you rather us give up that another team would want? You have to give up something to get good players, unless FLA/PHI want to do a salray dump.. then that is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(LDF @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 05:35 PM) i been wondering about him and his production. has it been confirmed about the roids. if that is the case then yes, lets not even look at him. I don't think many people have been confirmed as using illegal performance inhancing drugs. Most guys will only be "suspect"--guys who had career years out of the blue for seemingly no reason, a big loss of muscle mass, recurring nagging injuries, etc. Yet after hitting only 9 hr's and a jump to 34 the next, with a .597 SLG in 2001 after SLG % in the low .400's most of his career, something extraordinary happened w/ Aurilia that is hard to explain. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt, saying he's completely clean, his poor d and lack of speed aren't a good match for the sox. The whispers of who took what drugs will continue for the next few yrs. that's another factor KW must use in deciding who to bring to the sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Who was the first guy you heard this from this offseason? You have one guess. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Stop yourself. Anyone can read the MLB free agent tracker, I was reading it the same time we were talking about it. What is it with this goofy "I have to be the 1st one to mention it" thing you've got going on, I mean, are you totally whacked out or what? Will you please eat some carbs, it is affecting you worse than ever, I'm serious, and you know what I'm sayin'. On topic ... Aurilia ... if they get him, he would be one of two guys they get. Which is what I've been saying all along, you know what I'm sayin'. Now, go eat some carbs, you're nuts, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 05:59 PM) Stop yourself. Anyone can read the MLB free agent tracker, I was reading it the same time we were talking about it. What is it with this goofy "I have to be the 1st one to mention it" thing you've got going on, I mean, are you totally whacked out or what? Will you please eat some carbs, it is affecting you worse than ever, I'm serious, and you know what I'm sayin'. On topic ... Aurilia ... if they get him, he would be one of two guys they get. Which is what I've been saying all along, you know what I'm sayin'. Now, go eat some carbs, you're nuts, please. So you knock me for being the first to mention this three months ago, and you back up your argument with "I have been saying this all along" I wish others understood your flambouyant awareness of the obvious. It appears your back to drinking during the daytime hours. Back on the subject: Aurilla makes sense because he can play multiple positions. I agree this would be in addition to getting another player to play second.Still holding out for a trade or iguchi. You can forget the Durham thing. Won't happen, and the dude on the other web site needs to update his rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I'm not sure if i like Aurilia, but he is an improvement over Valdez. I think you need a veteran to play utility man anyways. Valdez should get some more experience down in Triple-A. Its never good to have a young player like that coming off the bench. He'll need his at bats. Larkin or Aurilia seems like a KW type of move. My first preference is to sign Iguchi or make a trade for Castillo (if possible). I expect KW to make his finishing moves this week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 05:51 PM) I don't think many people have been confirmed as using illegal performance inhancing drugs. Most guys will only be "suspect"--guys who had career years out of the blue for seemingly no reason, a big loss of muscle mass, recurring nagging injuries, etc. Yet after hitting only 9 hr's and a jump to 34 the next, with a .597 SLG in 2001 after SLG % in the low .400's most of his career, something extraordinary happened w/ Aurilia that is hard to explain. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt, saying he's completely clean, his poor d and lack of speed aren't a good match for the sox. The whispers of who took what drugs will continue for the next few yrs. that's another factor KW must use in deciding who to bring to the sox. thanks i was wondering on the names being whispered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 So you knock me for being the first to mention this three months ago, and you back up your argument with "I have been saying this all along" I wish others understood your flambouyant awareness of the obvious. It appears your back to drinking during the daytime hours. Back on the subject: Aurilla makes sense because he can play multiple positions. I agree this would be in addition to getting another player to play second.Still holding out for a trade or iguchi. You can forget the Durham thing. Won't happen, and the dude on the other web site needs to update his rumor. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 3 months ago? You were still on the "they'll trade Konerko" bandwagon 3 months ago. All that protein is turning your brain to mush. You are forgetting way too much ... are you truly nuts??? Like I said, anyone can read the MLB FA tracker, which most of us did, oh, in October or so. You've made four left turns and guess what, you're still in the same place. Bottoms up, have a Manhattan. Aurilia can play 3B but not well. He really only played 3B last year with the Padres if I remember correctly (check the MLB FA tracker to double check). He played a little 2B as well but most of his experience is at SS as you know. He is not a better SS than Uribe at this stage of his career IMO. So adding Aurilia does what, exactly? If you want to bounce Uribe around again, it does make sense. Doesn't appear that's what Ozzie wants to do, he wants Uribe as the #1 SS. Unless there's something going on they're not telling you ... Think about it. They don't like the 2B they have, there is not a SS out there better than Uribe (in their opinion), so Uribe is the main guy at SS. OK. They want to do two things: 1. Upgrade at 2B 2. Get a guy in who can capably back up SS, 2B, 3B. Suppose you bring in Iguchi, you and I both think that will still happen, unless the Manhattans are kicking in (try Elijah Craig by the way. I know you get to liking one thing and are impossible to move off the f***ing dime, but I have not steered you wrong yet). They get Iguchi, Harris gets moved. Then they bring in a Graffnino type guy. You get Iguchi, you still need a guy who can play a good 2B. What if Iguchi doesn't cut it? They need depth, and not Wilson Valdez type depth. Veteran depth. That's where a guy like Graff fits in. If you don't get Iguchi, Harris stays. And they bring in a guy who can play all 3 positions capably. Aurilia is not the guy to push Harris at 2B, he has very limited experience there. He played some 3B but not that well. Plus you have the roids issue, he was in SF when he had that big year. Plus they need speed off the bench. Aurilia is slow. At least Graff gives you a heads up baserunner and he can steal a base. This whole infield thing is unsettled, it's up in the air, I don't care what the PR machine says. Whatever is on the FA market right now is not a perfect fit, it just isn't. That's why a trade is likely. Iguchi will be the first domino IMO. Digest all that over a Manhattan ... it's past 12, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 06:26 PM) 3 months ago? You were still on the "they'll trade Konerko" bandwagon 3 months ago. All that protein is turning your brain to mush. You are forgetting way too much ... are you truly nuts??? Like I said, anyone can read the MLB FA tracker, which most of us did, oh, in October or so. You've made four left turns and guess what, you're still in the same place. Bottoms up, have a Manhattan. Aurilia can play 3B but not well. He really only played 3B last year with the Padres if I remember correctly (check the MLB FA tracker to double check). He played a little 2B as well but most of his experience is at SS as you know. He is not a better SS than Uribe at this stage of his career IMO. So adding Aurilia does what, exactly? If you want to bounce Uribe around again, it does make sense. Doesn't appear that's what Ozzie wants to do, he wants Uribe as the #1 SS. Unless there's something going on they're not telling you ... Think about it. They don't like the 2B they have, there is not a SS out there better than Uribe (in their opinion), so Uribe is the main guy at SS. OK. They want to do two things: 1. Upgrade at 2B 2. Get a guy in who can capably back up SS, 2B, 3B. Suppose you bring in Iguchi, you and I both think that will still happen, unless the Manhattans are kicking in (try Elijah Craig by the way. I know you get to liking one thing and are impossible to move off the f***ing dime, but I have not steered you wrong yet). They get Iguchi, Harris gets moved. Then they bring in a Graffnino type guy. You get Iguchi, you still need a guy who can play a good 2B. What if Iguchi doesn't cut it? They need depth, and not Wilson Valdez type depth. Veteran depth. That's where a guy like Graff fits in. If you don't get Iguchi, Harris stays. And they bring in a guy who can play all 3 positions capably. Aurilia is not the guy to push Harris at 2B, he has very limited experience there. He played some 3B but not that well. Plus you have the roids issue, he was in SF when he had that big year. Plus they need speed off the bench. Aurilia is slow. At least Graff gives you a heads up baserunner and he can steal a base. This whole infield thing is unsettled, it's up in the air, I don't care what the PR machine says. Whatever is on the FA market right now is not a perfect fit, it just isn't. That's why a trade is likely. Iguchi will be the first domino IMO. Digest all that over a Manhattan ... it's past 12, no? Too much info, I will print and read this when I am taking a s***. Aurilia provides depth at 3rd and SS. Can't have everything, every player lacks something, but he provides that depth. Not saying he will start. I still think we will get a 2baseman. That's it and yes almost three months ago we talked about this on the phone. You didn't like it, I didn't like it, but for the budget he can provide some veteran back up. Also if true it tells me the grafinino thing is bulls***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Too much info, I will print and read this when I am taking a s***. Aurilia provides depth at 3rd and SS. Can't have everything, every player lacks something, but he provides that depth. Not saying he will start. I still think we will get a 2baseman. That's it and yes almost three months ago we talked about this on the phone. You didn't like it, I didn't like it, but for the budget he can provide some veteran back up. Also if true it tells me the grafinino thing is bulls***. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Graff thing has holes in it for two reasons: One, the guy is hurting. Two, Sox and KC haven't traded with one another in forever. Not to say it won't happen but the odds are against it. They may just use this Valdez and the other ST invite, let them battle it out and see what Harris can do. If (when) it becomes a problem, they trade for somebody in May or so. That's if they do not get Iguchi. Either way, it's muddled, just like the mint in your Mint Juleps, you know exactly what I'm sayin'. Flush twice, those protein s***s are killers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxhawks Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 this would not be a very good move, he is nothing special i would rather see valdez than this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 I don't see how Aurelia is an upgrade over anything and he'd be too expensive as a backup. No thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB56 Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 08:16 PM) I don't see how Aurelia is an upgrade over anything and he'd be too expensive as a backup. No thanks! I dont see if they give Rich a minor leauge deal it would be that expensive and hes a vet that could help as a back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Bryant Nelson or Kelly Dransfeldt would be a better choice than Rich Aurilia IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Rich Aurilia had 1 good season. I'll take Iguchi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 11:22 AM) Im with Beck I would stay away from Aurilia.. If we not going to get Iguchi or make a trade.I would love to see the Sox get Barry Larkin. I see that Cora hasnt sign with Clev yet do you think the sox has something to do with that i thought cora signed, saw it on the espn ticker, and im confused, you dont want aurilia who is decent, but you want larkin who will retire in a year or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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