Gene Honda Civic Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...ack=1&cset=true If Ordonez had not sought the alternative that took him to Europe, where the treatment is approved, Schaden predicted U.S. surgeons would have drilled a hole into Ordonez's femur to begin the same type of healing the shock waves would have. Understanding the process is complicated, but basically the electric charge induces the production of different proteins and stimulates blood supply to help bones recover and grow. "It's impossible to measure, scientifically, but in general we can expect to cut up to 50 percent off the recovery time," Schaden said. Still sounds like a crock to me. Maggs we can either A] drill a hole in your femur to help drain the blood that's collected in there, or b] play some subsonic "noise" at it and hope for the best. I would have charged him less to sit on my subwoofer crankin out some Jay-Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 But Boros said it was just minor tear, like a golfer gets! What a fraud, foisting damaged goods for millions of dollars. That guys going to end up in jail some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 QUOTE(TLAK @ Jan 19, 2005 -> 07:33 PM) But Boros said it was just minor tear, like a golfer gets! What a fraud, foisting damaged goods for millions of dollars. That guys going to end up in jail some day. The only invasive surgery done in Austria was to repair a minicus tear according to this article, so while Boras my not be forthcoming, he is not lying. And, if true, shows White Sox team doctors missed this tear while repairing the other one, which they missed a few times. The shock treatment was non- invasive. Boras is fully aware no team will sign Magglio without a workout or 2 and a stringent medical exam. Time will tell if the procedure works. Magglio would be in the same boat or worse had he elected not to go to Austria. He actually avoided more surgery by going there, and by best case scenerio wouldn't have been able to go full out until at least March, so the White Sox wouldn't have and couldn't have or shouldn't have offered him arbitration if he elected conventional treatment. One other thing to add to this entire story, a pretty credible poster at WSI, who claims to be a doctor and is quite familiar with Dr. Weil said that Dr. Weil is or at least was a White Sox shareholder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jan 20, 2005 -> 01:48 AM) The only invasive surgery done in Austria was to repair a minicus tear according to this article, so while Boras my not be forthcoming, he is not lying. And, if true, shows White Sox team doctors missed this tear while repairing the other one, which they missed a few times. The shock treatment was non- invasive. Boras is fully aware no team will sign Magglio without a workout or 2 and a stringent medical exam. Time will tell if the procedure works. Magglio would be in the same boat or worse had he elected not to go to Austria. He actually avoided more surgery by going there, and by best case scenerio wouldn't have been able to go full out until at least March, so the White Sox wouldn't have and couldn't have or shouldn't have offered him arbitration if he elected conventional treatment. One other thing to add to this entire story, a pretty credible poster at WSI, who claims to be a doctor and is quite familiar with Dr. Weil said that Dr. Weil is or at least was a White Sox shareholder. Your post is a good one, but lets remember somethign about WSI they gave us the following: The rumor of Steve Stone possibly taking over for DJ, the rumor of Durham coming to the sox, the rumor of Iguchi signing on the eve of Soxfest. I think they just make up a bunch of s*** over there. But on your post I agree with your assessment. Well thought out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 I used to be a huge Maggs fan, but this is just getting old, I almost wish some team would just sign him. Not the Cubs though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scwible Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 seems like damage control to the chicago area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jan 19, 2005 -> 07:26 PM) http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...ack=1&cset=true Still sounds like a crock to me. Maggs we can either A] drill a hole in your femur to help drain the blood that's collected in there, or b] play some subsonic "noise" at it and hope for the best. I would have charged him less to sit on my subwoofer crankin out some Jay-Z "sub-sonic noise" is what is used to break up kidney stones and perform other non-invasive procedures. Maggs lost this battle and only time will tell if he wins the war. He risked playing out his contract and lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 QUOTE(Scwible @ Jan 20, 2005 -> 05:13 AM) seems like damage control to the chicago area. I agree... if the Cubs are going to make a run at him, they have to start spinning some positive PR for him since it seems Sox fans took managements side with this one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Hendry is right on his assessment of Maggs. It's going to take more than a physical & a few workouts to judge whether he can still play any where near his career average. I'm now thinking he won't be signed before ST but will get an invite with his most likely suitor. He'll have to prove his worth in ST & from there he might get a few more offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 20, 2005 -> 05:12 PM) Hendry is right on his assessment of Maggs. It's going to take more than a physical & a few workouts to judge whether he can still play any where near his career average. I'm now thinking he won't be signed before ST but will get an invite with his most likely suitor. He'll have to prove his worth in ST & from there he might get a few more offers. I still see an outside shot of either the Marlins and Orioles signing him with a few workouts if they lose out on Delgado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Does anyone know if Maggs had additional insurance coverage beyond what would protect his contract? It would seem he would have some policy, lie some college players have had that return for that last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 20, 2005 -> 05:21 PM) Does anyone know if Maggs had additional insurance coverage beyond what would protect his contract? It would seem he would have some policy, lie some college players have had that return for that last season. From what I understand, and with Leinart (sp?) deciding to stay in school this has come up, the insurance only covers career ending injuries, they don't "make-up" lost earnings for time missed. This seems like a silly example, but it's one I know of. When Mr. Perfect from wrestling got hurt he collected on a Lloyd's of London insurance policy. But when he returned to the ring a few years later he had to negotiate a settlment with them to pay some of the money back, since it was for career ending injuries only... this is why Ravishing Rick Rude never wresteled before he died when he most likely could have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jan 20, 2005 -> 11:25 AM) From what I understand, and with Leinart (sp?) deciding to stay in school this has come up, the insurance only covers career ending injuries, they don't "make-up" lost earnings for time missed. This seems like a silly example, but it's one I know of. When Mr. Perfect from wrestling got hurt he collected on a Lloyd's of London insurance policy. But when he returned to the ring a few years later he had to negotiate a settlment with them to pay some of the money back, since it was for career ending injuries only... this is why Ravishing Rick Rude never wresteled before he died when he most likely could have Rick Rudd's dead huh. I guess steroids really do have a negative impact on the human body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted January 21, 2005 Author Share Posted January 21, 2005 http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/basebal...ack=1&cset=true Meanwhile, the Orioles don't expect free-agent outfielder Magglio Ordonez to sign with anybody before February. Ordonez had his left knee examined on Jan. 6, and he's supposed to start full athletic workouts sometime this week. The Orioles have seen some of his medical records but are waiting until the rest become available. Ordonez underwent two surgeries last season to repair torn cartilage in the knee, the second one in September in Vienna, Austria. His agent, Scott Boras, who wasn't available to comment Thurdday, has insisted no other damage was found, but many teams are skeptical. A source familiar with Ordonez's rehabilitation said one doctor estimated the outfield¬ er's knee will be 75 percent healed by the start of spring training, with no assurances he'll make a full recovery. The Orioles must determine whether Ordonez suffered any trauma to the bone, and if so, whether it occurred in a weight- bearing area. That's why teams are placing greater importance on his medical records than his on-field activities, which could cause the knee to swell the next day without anyone knowing it. "If it's not in that weight-bearing area, most people feel it will be 100 percent," said a baseball executive. "If it is, it may never be again. We're talking millimeters." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jan 21, 2005 -> 02:49 AM) http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/basebal...ack=1&cset=true Interesting. I wonder pre-injury, and pre-October, how many other teams had him ahead of Beltran? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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