Cubs Suck23 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 According to a japanesse newspaper. I read a forum about iguchi it says that iguchi agents has made a new proposal to the sox a 2 yr deal for 6M... The forum also said their hasnt been much intersted in Iguchi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubs Suck23 Posted January 21, 2005 Author Share Posted January 21, 2005 The forum can be read on japanesebaseball.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) Here's the post; According to Daily Sports [Link] (Japanese language), Iguchi's agent, Richard Moss, has made a new proposal (on 19 Jan, U.S. time) to the White Sox for 2 years at 3 million per year. No other (MLB) teams have shown any serious interest, according to the article. So it looks like it will be the White Sox if they can come to a compromise. Mr. Zero or somebody else can convert this article from Japanese if they want. http://www.daily.co.jp/baseball/2005/01/21/158567.shtml EDIT: I also changed the topic title to make it easier to understand. Edited January 21, 2005 by DBAH0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Now is the time for Kenny to stick to his guns. Offer him incentives to get to 3 Mil Per but don't just give it to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnin Ugly Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I think it would be totally sweet if we can sign Iguchi this weekend when the cubs are having their convention... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 This sounds closer to what we originally offered him. I think we can get him in a Sox uni pretty soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OFSoxFanMike Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I think that at 6M/2yrs the reward absolutely outweighs the risk. KW should not haggle over a few hundred thousand dollars. Get the deal done while the scrubbies are still having their little convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 If that's true, this deal will get done pretty quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S720 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 QUOTE(OFSoxFanMike @ Jan 21, 2005 -> 08:22 AM) I think that at 6M/2yrs the reward absolutely outweighs the risk. KW should not haggle over a few hundred thousand dollars. Get the deal done while the scrubbies are still having their little convention. This is what Kenny has been waiting for. And that's the reason why he is willing to let other 2B free agents go to other teams such as Cora to the Indians and Cairo to the Mets. In Kenny's eyes, Iguchi is much better 2B player than Cairo and Cora. I don't think he's ever had his eyes on Cairo or Cora since the offseason began. Kenny, please pull in Iguchi and call the offseason a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 22, 2005 -> 01:25 AM) If that's true, this deal will get done pretty quickly. That's my thinking too. If KW's smart, he'll put in a team option for 2007 at about $4 million, which could be a bargain if Iguchi really hits well here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 21, 2005 -> 08:29 AM) That's my thinking too. If KW's smart, he'll put in a team option for 2007 at about $4 million, which could be a bargain if Iguchi really hits well here. Throw in a buyout for 07 and it looks just like a Rick Hahn contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 21, 2005 -> 08:29 AM) That's my thinking too. If KW's smart, he'll put in a team option for 2007 at about $4 million, which could be a bargain if Iguchi really hits well here. More like a team option / player option situation to get that done. Anyone else concerned that basically we are the only ones bidding? Could be another Takatsu, maybe not. I just cannot get excited about this either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Get it done KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Jan 21, 2005 -> 08:43 AM) Get it done KW Welcome to Soxtalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 If we sign him, I would say what a great offseason for KW and the sox. KW is doing a great job not overpaying like the Mets did with Kaz Matsui. I think 2yrs for 6mil is respectable. Go sign him KW, get the attention off the Cubs fest this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 22, 2005 -> 01:42 AM) More like a team option / player option situation to get that done. Anyone else concerned that basically we are the only ones bidding? Could be another Takatsu, maybe not. I just cannot get excited about this either way. I think the teams that have needed a starting infielder, and are willing to pay for one, basically filled that need earlier in the off-season like the Red Sox did with Renteria and the Angels with God AKA Orlando Cabrera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I'd be willing to bet that Iguchi in his 1st season would definitely have better numbers than Kaz Matsui, and the Mets are paying him $21 million over 3 years. Doesn't look too bad when you consider it from that perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 21, 2005 -> 09:44 AM) Welcome to Soxtalk Thanks....its nice to find somewhere to talk Sox and forget another chicago team even exists. I am so excited for this year...the possible addition of Iguchi would be a great way to cap this off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I'm assuming if we got this deal done, payroll would be at about $75 million right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 21, 2005 -> 09:16 AM) I'm assuming if we got this deal done, payroll would be at about $75 million right? $73ish IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 22, 2005 -> 02:17 AM) $73ish IIRC. That would definitely leave a few mill left for another move now, or one during the trade deadline for a guy like Joe Randa, if we need an upgrapde somewhere to help put us over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 21, 2005 -> 08:42 AM) More like a team option / player option situation to get that done. Anyone else concerned that basically we are the only ones bidding? Could be another Takatsu, maybe not. I just cannot get excited about this either way. I know this isn't what you mean by that, but I'd be thrilled if Iguchi worked out as well as Takatsu has. Shingo performed very well on the field and became a fan favorite despite not speaking much, if any, English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaCWS Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 If this report is accurate, I think you go sign him. I realize he's somewhat of an unknown commodity, but if he ends up sucking, you only invested two years. In the grand scheme that's not too bad, and given his #'s in Japan it's definitely worth a shot. Go do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I think Kenny should split the difference between Iguchi's agent's proposal (2 years, $6 million) and his own (2 years, $4 million). Offer Iguchi a 2-year, $5 million contract with a team option for 2007... 2005 - $2.5 million 2006 - $2.5 million 2007 - $4.0 million team option Iguchi could be great here in the states and deserve more money but I don't think he should be making more than Uribe right off the bat. Uribe proved he could hit in the majors last season. Iguchi has yet to show that. I really love how Kenny is playing this offseason out after he (thankfully) bombed on Omar Vizquel. He is keeping his mouth shut and negotiating properly with guys instead of talking about it in the media. He is truly "flying under the radar" now! I also love how he's low-balling guys to sign for less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I can't translate this right now because for some stinking reason by school blocked Google Translate. Someone else can do it. http://www.google.com/language_tools Go down to Translate a web page and select Japanese to English BETA. Then copy the url ( http://www.daily.co.jp/baseball/2005/01/21/158567.shtml ) into the box. Then translate. Copy/Paste what you get here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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