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QUOTE(CrimsonWeltall @ Jan 22, 2005 -> 04:26 PM)
I think I'm going to become a politician and propose a law called the Child Protection from Pornography Act. It will have 2 points.

 

1) People making child porn get life in prison.

 

2) People who have used the name NUKE_CLEVELAND on message boards will be executed.

Anyone who does not support this legislation clearly is in favor of promoting child pornography.

 

 

Real cute.

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QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 22, 2005 -> 04:27 PM)
Real cute.

 

While it is over the top, the example does highlight a challenge we have in witting our laws. The fact is that politicians like to have coattails to hide some legislation and use someones objection to part A of a bill as an objection about part B.

 

We also like laws that actually do what they are designed to do, nothing more and nothing less. We write tough anti-terrorism legislation, then prosecute a guy in his backyard with a laser pointer. We write tough anti-mob laws (RICO) and use it to prosecute anything and everything.

 

I want some group as a watchdog to make certain our legal system is doing what we want it to do, nothing more and nothing less. Competition hones talents and makes most things efficient. Politicians cannot be sloppy in writing laws that the legal profession could exploit against us for unintended reasons.

 

A better example I just thought of.

 

I will sponsor a Safe Kid Legislation making it illegal for child pornography and possessing a handgun within firing range of anyone under 18 years of age. When the NRA objects, we'll label them as anti-kid and pro-child pornography. Further, I will define child pornography as any photo of a child that could elicit strong physical or emotional responses.

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And Dr. James Kennedy, IIRC, he was the guy who spearheaded the 1980s movements to stop spring break in parts of Florida.

 

Plus, Kennedy is a huge Moonie -- and one would figure that his Moonie support would be odd as a fundamentalist Christian since Moon thinks of himself as the 2nd coming of Christ and wants churches to take down the cross in his honor.

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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 05:57 PM)
Wrong again. We are a democratic republic.  That puts democracy first!

 

Socialists go to Europe.  We don't want you here.

 

A democratic republic is intended to prevent the oppression of the minority by the majority that pure democracy inherently entails.

 

Fascists, go back to Germany. :bang

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A democratic republic is intended to prevent the oppression of the minority by the majority that pure democracy inherently entails.

 

Fascists, go back to Germany.  :bang

 

In your socialist dreams is what that means. In reality it means there are certain inalienable rights which can not be subjected to changes in opinion by the majority.

As defined in the US Cons & practiced in years since then those rights were intended to remain small in number. Likewise those rights were intended to be such that the majority could not impose their will on the minority. They were never intended to allow the minority to impose their will on the majority.

 

Socialists leave. Nobody wants your burden to society any more. Spain is welcoming you with open arms. Go now.

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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 06:33 PM)
We all know the ACLU is the bastion of morally relative politcally correct speech. There's no point in debating it.  It's another socialist think tank designed with a specific intent to undermine democracy.

 

Actually the ACLU is not a think tank at all. Its a group of activists involved in constitutional law. The Rand Corporation is a think tank.

 

But you're right they do defend what has become politically correct speech. They defended Rush Limbaugh.

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Actually the ACLU is not a think tank at all. Its a group of activists involved in constitutional law. The Rand Corporation is a think tank.

 

But you're right they do defend what has become politically correct speech. They defended Rush Limbaugh.

 

Do you actually believe the bulls*** you post? Do you have any idea how big the ACLU is? Are you completely ignorant of it's resources? They defend their own deranged moralist bulls***. That's what they defend. Occasionally it just happens to coincide with stuff us privacy advocates agree with. Hence your reference to Rush.

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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 05:57 PM)
Wrong again. We are a democratic republic.  That puts democracy first!

 

Socialists go to Europe.  We don't want you here.

 

Actually if you want to be technical, democratic describes the type of republic we live in... But silly me knowing the difference between a noun and an adjective...

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Actually if you want to be technical, democratic describes the type of republic we live in... But silly me knowing the difference between a noun and an adjective...

 

I won't comment on you, but democratic republic refers to the fact that representatives of the republic are elected via a democratic process. But silly me for understanding the context of the words & not just their grammar. ;)

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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 10:52 PM)
I won't comment on you, but democratic republic refers to the fact that representatives of the republic are elected via a democratic process.  But silly me for understanding the context of the words & not just their grammar.  ;)

Democratic Republics are clearly superior to Socialistic ones.

 

DR, 31, 27, 29, 14, 21, 64, +132

SR, 18, 22, 23, 18, 17, 34, +37

 

It's clear.

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