AngelasDaddy0427 Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 (edited) According to WGN Radio right now the deal is pretty much done. Prospects and Jerry Heirston (Sp?) for Sammy Sosa If this deal is for real and done then Baltimore is the worst franchise in baseball. EDITED title by aboz http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1978241 Edited January 29, 2005 by aboz56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 08:35 PM) According to WGN Radio right now the deal is pretty much done. Prospects and Jerry Heirston (Sp?) for Sammy Sosa If this deal is for real and done then Baltimore is the worst franchise in baseball. I heard it on the Score, Hairston and Prospects doesn't seem like much to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 This is actually a good deal for both sides. The Cubs get some addition by subtraction in the clubhouse and get to free up money for a Magglio run if they choose. The Orioles quiet a frustrated fansbase with a guy who may draw tickets. Let's face it, he's overrated and a world-class jerk none of us like but I can see some value in adding him if I am Baltimore. It's not like he's hitting .220 with no power. He should still hit 40 if he can make 150 games. By the small amount that the Flubs are getting, I would assume Baltimore is picking up most of the tab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 There's a lot of rumors going around right now, nothing official though. Sounds like if something does go down it won't be till Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 the deal isnt done yet but i heard Jorge Julio might be involved in the deal as well. Id assume for this to go down the cubs are paying a major part of Sosa's contract. I think he will bounce back in Baltimore really surrounded by good hitters and not have cub fans all over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Hendry has stated that he won't just pay the whole 16. Maybe if he gets Julio (who they could use) he will move a bit on that. THe more the Cubs get, the more of the tab they will have to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 I think the fact that this came from the World's Greatest Newspaper adds weight to it. ESPNews has picked it up in the bottom corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quade36 Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 They are saying Jorge is not part of the deal. Its Sosa for Hariston Jr and two minor league prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Per Rotoworld: Several sources told the AP that Sammy Sosa will be traded to the Orioles, with the Cubs paying a substantial portion of the $17 million he's owed this season. Sosa reportedly would waive his no-trade clause and agree to void his salary in 2006. That makes it sound as if a contract extension won't be part of the deal. The Cubs will definitely get Jerry Hairston Jr. and prospects. Jorge Julio may or may not be involved http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...ort=MLB&id=4344 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 well if cubs make out with Julio and Hairston JR and unload Sosa id say they didnt do 2 bad of a job. I just like to know how much of Sosa's contract they would have to eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 10:23 PM) well if cubs make out with Julio and Hairston JR and unload Sosa id say they didnt do 2 bad of a job. I just like to know how much of Sosa's contract they would have to eat. According to rotoworld, it would be a substantial portion maybe 10$ out of $17, just a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1978241 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 If the cubs dont get Maggs, what's their outfield going to be....C Pat (Sosa Jr.), Hollandsworth? and.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(chimpy2121 @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 10:45 PM) If the cubs dont get Maggs, what's their outfield going to be....C Pat (Sosa Jr.), Hollandsworth? and.....? Dubois/Burnitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 I predict this won't get done for another couple weeks, and the names involved will change several times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 10:49 PM) Dubois/Burnitz. Are you saying if and when they sign burnitz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 I'm actually surprised the trade went through even though we've been hearing Sosa could be moved. Good trade for both teams though. Baltimore doesn't want to keel over for Boston and New York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 10:57 PM) I'm actually surprised the trade went through even though we've been hearing Sosa could be moved. Good trade for both teams though. Baltimore doesn't want to keel over for Boston and New York. They'll continue to be b**** slapped by Yankees and Red Sox. Listening to Mike Murphy driving home from school, Angelos promised Orioles fans a "revamped team." and it appears he was willing to tango with Hendry. Sosa has feasted off weak NLC pitching for nearly his entire career, how can Angelos expect him to perform consistently against New York/Boston? If the structuring of the deal is correct (06 voided), I'm afraid Baltimore will be put in a similar situation as the Mets were with Chris Benson. Overpay for Sosa, and risk scewing the upcoming market for power hitters. All we need is Konerko demanding >10 million because Baltimore lavished Sosa with a 45/3 deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 I'm upset that he's being traded. But only because he causes such a problem within their clubhouse. Jerry Hairston, Jr.? Isn't he a second baseman? Where the hell is he going to fit. If you ask me, Baltimore got a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jan 29, 2005 -> 12:17 AM) They'll continue to be b**** slapped by Yankees and Red Sox. Listening to Mike Murphy driving home from school, Angelos promised Orioles fans a "revamped team." and it appears he was willing to tango with Hendry. Sosa has feasted off weak NLC pitching for nearly his entire career, how can Angelos expect him to perform consistently against New York/Boston? I know it's been said somewhere, but the offense wasn't even Baltimore's problem. This does nothing but hurt them, even if Sosa exceeds expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jan 29, 2005 -> 04:26 PM) I know it's been said somewhere, but the offense wasn't even Baltimore's problem. This does nothing but hurt them, even if Sosa exceeds expectations. Baltimore's Rotation as of this moment; 1 - Sidney Ponson 2 - Rodrigo Lopez 3 - Daniel Cabrera 4 - Erik Bedard 5 - Matt Riley Is there 1 guy on that list who would get into our rotation at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 29, 2005 -> 12:31 AM) Baltimore's Rotation as of this moment; 1 - Sidney Ponson 2 - Rodrigo Lopez 3 - Daniel Cabrera 4 - Erik Bedard 5 - Matt Riley Is there 1 guy on that list who would get into our rotation at the moment? Maybe Ponson, but he's not even that special and his contract would make it worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quade36 Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 I wouldn't mind Rodrigo Lopez. He is a stud in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 11:26 PM) I know it's been said somewhere, but the offense wasn't even Baltimore's problem. This does nothing but hurt them, even if Sosa exceeds expectations. It seems Baltimore is attempting to compensate their ineptness with a headline grabbing move. Isn't that what teams are fighting for today, media coverage? :rolly Ponson is their ace. Cabrera (unless I've misplaced another starter) is their number 2. Outside of these starters, which is hardly proven or formidable, strong American League clubs will rip through their rotation. Their bullpen may sustain some leads, but again, mediocrity won't cut it in the ALE. Not against two clubs running payrolls exceeding 120 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 http://www.northtonorth.com/mikesroom/sounds/hegone.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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