CanOfCorn Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Pierce dismissed from Iowa basketball team The Associated Press February 2, 2005, 2:07 PM CST Iowa basketball player Pierre Pierce, under investigation for his role in a sexual assault and burglary last week, has been permanently dismissed from the team, university athletic officials said Wednesday. Pierce is under investigation by West Des Moines police for intent to commit sexual abuse, burglary, criminal mischief and false imprisonment. A police report estimates about $1,300 damage to property, including a television, stereo, photographs and bedroom furniture. Extent of any injuries and type of force is unknown, according to the report. Copyright © 2005, The Associated Press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Not like it's the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Yeah, I figured this was going to happen. It's been pretty hush hush here at Iowa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 He should never been allowed back on the team after the first time. Third degree sexual assault "eventually pleaded down" is not something you just overlook, Alferd should have been fired for his handling of Pierce, in allowing a felon to continue to play on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Damnit. Why couldn't this have happened before last Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 03:52 PM) Damnit. Why couldn't this have happened before last Saturday? Ha, poor Indiana. This will help the Illini now that one of the top scorers in the Big Ten is gone for the year. Plus Illinois still has a game at Iowa which was going to be tough just got a whole lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Good riddance to bad rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 He Gawn. Good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 I'm suprised he was playing in the first place. The guy is nothing but a gangster and a thug and he deserves what he gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Alford should be run out of town with him... I haven't supported the Iowa BBall program for 6 years-- for 6 years the program has been continually underachieving and in a constant state of flux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 04:51 PM) Alford should be run out of town with him... I haven't supported the Iowa BBall program for 6 years-- for 6 years the program has been continually underachieving and in a constant state of flux. As an Iowa alum and up until this incident, Alford backer, I agree with you 100%. Alford stuck his neck out for the wrong guy, and he got s*** on. Steve should have known better. If Pierce was a benchwarmer, he would never have been allowed to return to the team in the first place. Its time Alford hit the road. Bowlsby should get someone who can recruit players who can win and stay out of jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 04:01 PM) Ha, poor Indiana. This will help the Illini now that one of the top scorers in the Big Ten is gone for the year. Plus Illinois still has a game at Iowa which was going to be tough just got a whole lot easier. i don't think he'll be gone for just a year.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(TheBlackSox8 @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 05:19 PM) i don't think he'll be gone for just a year.. I know, I just meant for this year, IMHO he's never playing college basketball again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 05:06 PM) As an Iowa alum and up until this incident, Alford backer, I agree with you 100%. Alford stuck his neck out for the wrong guy, and he got s*** on. Steve should have known better. If Pierce was a benchwarmer, he would never have been allowed to return to the team in the first place. Its time Alford hit the road. Bowlsby should get someone who can recruit players who can win and stay out of jail. I'm 25, and I grew up weened on the coaching Icons of Haden Fry, Dr. Tom, and Dan Gable. Those three left in such a short time period, and Alford looked like the most capable replacement. A little over 5 years later, this is obviously not the case. Alford hitched his trailer to the wrong pony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Would this have been announced on any other day but Groundhog Day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 This is where the NCAA/Iowa have to hold Alford responsible too. He gave this guy a second chance after a vicious assault (Boers and Bernstein have talked about the police reports, and it's sickening). This is a sad situation that should have never happened, but Pierce probably thought he was entitled to act like this since his coach and university would stand by him like they have in the past... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 I never thought of it that way. That game in Iowa was going to be really hard but now we should be able to blow them out . Also you guys dont think he will be able to catch on somewhere? Id think some struggling college would take him but anyways worse come to worse he might just go to the NBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Sexual assault AND burglary.....tsk, tsk, tsk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 They really know how to run a program there at Iowa. I-O I-O I-Owe $20,000 Bail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Yeah I think this is Alford's last year unless he can get this team into the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 06:52 PM) They really know how to run a program there at Iowa. I-O I-O I-Owe $20,000 Bail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 06:58 PM) Yeah I think this is Alford's last year unless he can get this team into the tournament. I don't care if they make some stupid tournament in March. Dr. Tom didn't have these type of problems in IC, and he made the tourney year after year with inferior talent, save the 87 season(that theam was great). Alford gets the talent that plays great until Christmas, then pisses down their legs everytime they hit B10 play. You shouldn't be happy sneaking into the Tourny every few years, or hoping to win 4 games in 4 days in Chicago to steal a spot. f*** Alford for sticking up for this low-life, and f*** Alford for forcing a group of underachievers on us year after year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 05:05 PM) I don't care if they make some stupid tournament in March. Dr. Tom didn't have these type of problems in IC, and he made the tourney year after year with inferior talent, save the 87 season(that theam was great). Alford gets the talent that plays great until Christmas, then pisses down their legs everytime they hit B10 play. You shouldn't be happy sneaking into the Tourny every few years, or hoping to win 4 games in 4 days in Chicago to steal a spot. f*** Alford for sticking up for this low-life, and f*** Alford for forcing a group of underachievers on us year after year. Couldn't of said it better myself Cheat. More importantly f*** Pierre Pierce. A guy with NBA talent that instead f***s up. But Alford has had plenty of talent and continued to see this team take dumps in conference plays. I thought he was a good hire at the time, in fact a great hire, turns out I and many others were wrong. Its time for a new team unless they somehow go insanely deep. Sad thing is I like the talent on this squad and I think it will be there again next year since they pretty much have zero seniors on the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 So when does Eddie Sutton pick him up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 I'm tired of this f***er getting ink and bandwidth -- So here's a KF/Iowa article instead. By Brian Triplett Special to ESPN.com IOWA CITY, Iowa -- Kirk Ferentz sat in his living room two Saturdays ago and watched another chapter of Iowa football unfold on his television. Four highly-coveted high school recruits playing in the U.S. Army All-American Bowl in San Antonio told a live NBC television audience what school they were committing to play for the following fall. "The Iowa Hawkeyes," said four of the 17 players who announced their intentions that day, including one who had kept Iowa coaches in the dark up until the cameras began rolling. No, It's Iowa Led by OL Dan Doering, OL Dace Richardson, TE Anthony Moeaki and DL Ryan Bain, the Hawkeyes are building one of the nation's top recruiting classes for 2005. Iowa's verbal commitments Signing Day central Last week, sipping coffee and relaxing in a black leather chair in the Iowa football office, Ferentz smiled while recalling the moment Chicago-area natives Dan Doering, Dace Richardson, Ryan Bain and Tony Moeaki joined forces to create one of the best recruiting classes in the nation. "Six years ago I probably wouldn't have envisioned that," Ferentz said. "But the world is changing too." Six years ago -- when Ferentz went 1-10 in his first year as head coach of the Hawkeyes -- all he could offer recruits was a vision. Today, after three-straight 10-win seasons, three-straight January bowl games, and three-straight top-10 postseason finishes, Ferentz has more to sell than just what could be. And that's why Ferentz and the Hawkeyes have recruits telling Tennessee, Nebraska and Notre Dame "no thanks," Ohio State, Georgia, and Michigan "we've found something better," and USC, Florida State, and Miami "sorry, but we're heading for the cornfields." "There were a lot of recruits that we were able to recruit this year that I'm sure six years ago probably wouldn't have even opened our mail," said Ferentz. The first day recruits can put their commitments into writing is Wednesday, and the Hawkeyes are projected to boast a top-10 recruiting class for the first time in Iowa football history. Recruiting analyst Tom Lemming has the Hawks' 2005 recruiting class ranked as high as No. 4 behind Nebraska, Tennessee and USC, while two other national recruiting websites had Iowa ranked No. 5 and 6. "Just like we're starting to earn some credibility on the field, I think we're doing the same thing in the recruiting world as well," Ferentz said. "We're not selling beaches, we're not selling exotic weather, but yeah, I think we have a great product to sell here -- great school, great community and a pretty solid football team." The past two years, Iowa only signed a total of three four- and five-star recruits according to scout.com's five-star rating system. This season, the Hawks are looking at 10. Throughout his tenure at Iowa, Ferentz has been building a sturdy house with a hammer and nails. Now that he's got power tools to work with, the Hawkeyes might just be building a national championship contender. "It's a good time to be a Hawkeye," said Doering, one of the top offensive linemen entering college next year. Recruits are noticing just what Kirk Ferentz is building at Iowa and want to be a part of it. It sounds so simple, but there's a little more to it than that. While outsiders may not be ready to give into the fact that Iowa has become a perennial powerhouse, incoming recruits see it not only as a smart choice, but the best choice. "I look at them as a top program, but most people don't because of the name Iowa," said Armwood (Fla.) high school running back Kalvin Bailey, who turned down offers from Florida State and Georgia to become a Hawkeye. "I don't think kids can argue the point that there's a better school than Iowa overall," said Ryan Bain, a four-star defensive lineman recruit out of Bolingbrook, Ill. "If you're serious about football and having a good experience in college, I think it's the place to be." Recruits see it as the place to be for three main reasons: They have endless respect for Kirk Ferentz and his staff, they see a great opportunity to continue to take a school to places it's never been before, and they see how Iowa develops players who come through the system. "The first time I saw a letter from Iowa, I thought 'Why would I want to go there?'" said Minnesota native Rafael Eubanks, who turned down a chance to play for Miami, Notre Dame and Oklahoma to join Iowa's offensive line. "But it took a visit there to realize how special it really was." Granted, competing recruiting schools like Notre Dame and Illinois went through some turbulence with coaching changes last season, but a school doesn't make the jump from barely having a top-40 recruiting class one season to a top-5 the next simply by having good timing. "Everything about recruiting is momentum," Lemming said. "If there's a perception that something special is happening somewhere, they all pick up the vibe." There is definitely something special in Iowa City, and his name is Kirk Ferentz. His coaching ability is hardly matched while his personality can be found in the guy next door. "He's just a real comfortable guy to talk to," said Doering, who had over 30 schools offer him scholarships, including Oklahoma and Tennessee. "My coaches and family and parents, they all loved him. My coaches said that he was their favorite." Although Ferentz's squad is one of only four teams in the country who can boast three-straight 10-win seasons, what the Hawkeyes can't claim -- unlike schools like Tennessee, Nebraska, and Oklahoma that surround Iowa on the recruiting charts -- is a national title. And although they won't call it group decision, the five Chicago-area recruits who played together at the all-star game in San Antonio admit they had an influence on one another when deciding where to play the following fall. "I think it was a little bit of a domino effect," said offensive tackle Dace Richardson. "From my perspective, seeing why the other players chose it just made me feel more comfortable about the school. I knew they were on the rise and I also want to be the first to take them to a place they haven't ever been." But what seems to be the most appealing aspect of playing for the Hawkeyes for the recruits is the dream of what they could one day become. One of the nation's finest strength coaches, Iowa's Chris Doyle, is known for turning small-town tight end Robert Gallery into a vicious offensive lineman who went No. 2 overall in the 2004 NFL draft, and a walk-on by the name of Dallas Clark into a top receiving threat for the Indianapolis Colts just two years removed from college. "The quickest way to the NFL could be Iowa," Lemming said. And the recruits don't fail to see that. "For me, I see what they do with walk-ons and I just wonder what they can do with my ability," Richardson said. Add in the fact that Ferentz just signed a contract extension to stay at Iowa through 2012, and those constant rumors about Ferentz leaving for the NFL have been silenced, a fact that's not lost on incoming recruits. Still, for all Ferentz has accomplished in Iowa, there's still the one question that has yet to be answered. "That's a classic question, 'Why Iowa?' Right?" he said. "A lot of our recruits face that one. A lot of the coaches that have come here have faced that one. Unless you're from Iowa, that's a pretty common question, 'Why Iowa?' And I'm sure some of those schools are going to try to figure out and be wondering, 'Why Iowa?' too. 'What are they doing in this neighborhood?' And we might get ushered out of there pretty quickly. I don't know. But that's OK. But you know, it's nice. It's nice to be recognized." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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