Soxy Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Patriotism over price. Cost Trumps Patriotism in Flag Pin Flap OTTAWA (Reuters) - The next time a Canadian official hands you a lapel pin bearing an image of the country's maple leaf flag, take a closer look. That symbol of patriotism was likely made in China. Opposition legislator Charlie Angus attacked the Liberal government on Wednesday for ordering millions of "inferior quality" pins from a Chinese supplier rather than the Canadian factory that has been making them for 35 years. "They are selling off our cultural heritage like a bunch of roadside hucksters selling off hubcaps and velvet Elvis paintings," Angus told Parliament. Public Works Minister Scott Brison, whose department buys the pins, said the Chinese pins were cheaper. But this did not satisfy Angus, a member of the left-leaning New Democrats. "We're outsourcing the fundamental symbol of what Canada is to a foreign country. I think that's a scandal," he told reporters. Canadian officials and members of Parliament traditionally hand out the pins as presents. Transport Minister Jean Lapierre said that to demand maple leaf pins be made by Canadian suppliers was bad policy for a country so dependent on international trade. "I think we need to follow our procurement rules rather than falling into an existential crisis on this subject," he told reporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 11:16 AM) Patriotism over price. Cost Trumps Patriotism in Flag Pin Flap OTTAWA (Reuters) - The next time a Canadian official hands you a lapel pin bearing an image of the country's maple leaf flag, take a closer look. That symbol of patriotism was likely made in China. Opposition legislator Charlie Angus attacked the Liberal government on Wednesday for ordering millions of "inferior quality" pins from a Chinese supplier rather than the Canadian factory that has been making them for 35 years. "They are selling off our cultural heritage like a bunch of roadside hucksters selling off hubcaps and velvet Elvis paintings," Angus told Parliament. Public Works Minister Scott Brison, whose department buys the pins, said the Chinese pins were cheaper. But this did not satisfy Angus, a member of the left-leaning New Democrats. "We're outsourcing the fundamental symbol of what Canada is to a foreign country. I think that's a scandal," he told reporters. Canadian officials and members of Parliament traditionally hand out the pins as presents. Transport Minister Jean Lapierre said that to demand maple leaf pins be made by Canadian suppliers was bad policy for a country so dependent on international trade. "I think we need to follow our procurement rules rather than falling into an existential crisis on this subject," he told reporters. I love this line I think that's a scandal The Liberals of Canada are being accused of everything right now, this is the least of their worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Canada makes me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) Canada makes me laugh. Yah you guys too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 02:48 PM) Canada makes me laugh. Politically the U.S. makes me cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Does this explain Nickelback, Sum 41, Avril Lavigne, Alanis Morissette and Dave Coulier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Canada, as much as I love your bacon and beer, please keep the above "celebrities" within your borders. Celine Dion too. Love, winodj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 QUOTE(winodj @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 04:52 PM) Canada, as much as I love your bacon and beer, please keep the above "celebrities" within your borders. Celine Dion too. Love, winodj. No no you can have them. We'll even throw in Anne Murray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 QUOTE(Mathew @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 04:16 PM) Politically the U.S. makes me cry. That's too bad, I really like this country politically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Will you're going to have to do some explaining on why you laugh at Canada and like your country politically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 05:28 PM) That's too bad, I really like this country politically. Umm...being a political junkie that I am, I'm gonna bite -- what's to really like about the choices we get in this country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I'd rather live in this country then any other country. That's why what some people think are major problems for the country, I think they're pretty minor. But I'm a political junkie too, for a 19 year old at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 07:21 PM) That's why what some people think are major problems for the country, I think they're pretty minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 07:29 PM) words of Peter Griffin"What........Canada sucks!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Personally, I'm grateful to Canada for Moe Berg and his group, The Pursuit Of Happiness! I loved that band! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 What's with all the Canadian hatin'? WTF did they ever do to us? Sheesh, some of the people that live in this country don't deserve this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I'll give some canadian love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I like Rush even though they suck, must be a Canadian thing, plus I gotta like out Hot Chick champion from Canada Ms. Cuthbert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 06:21 PM) I'd rather live in this country then any other country. That's why what some people think are major problems for the country, I think they're pretty minor. But I'm a political junkie too, for a 19 year old at least. If I was wealthy I'd really love to live in the U.S. too, but I wouldn't otherwise. I'd hardly consider the unbelieveable borrowing, the Billions sunk into the offensive weaponization of space and the millions of people without health care minor problems but, since you do I'll let you be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 The problem here is that while the Canadian Govt. is probably urging its citizens to 'Buy Canadian', they them selves did not. Kind of a 'do as I say, not as I do' thing. I encounter this in my business, where the local government has many 'Buy in Bloomingdale' ads, promotions, etc., but I lost out on a $4000 print job to a company in Wisconsin, by $79. For a $79 savings, they sent work, and money OUT of Illinois, and out of Bloomingdale, and into Wisconsin. So much for supporting local businesses. That is what the one guy was trying to say. They COULD have purchased them from a local company, but to save a little scratch, they sent the job to China. The story didn't say what the cost savings was, but if it was only 5% or 10%, they purchasing guy should re-evaluate his purchase criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(Mathew @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 10:20 PM) I like Rush even though they suck, must be a Canadian thing, plus I gotta like out Hot Chick champion from Canada Ms. Cuthbert. I wouldn't say Rush sucks - not everybody's cup of tea, perhaps. Now Chilliwack on the other hand... they sucked. The verdict is still out on Kim Mitchell, with a probable forecast of maybe 60% suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Feb 4, 2005 -> 03:52 AM) Now Chilliwack on the other hand... they sucked. Chilliwack? Did they sing 'She Gone' or something like that? That one was a good song. Heard it on XM tonight on my way home. I couldn't tell you anything else they did, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 11:27 PM) Chilliwack? Did they sing 'She Gone' or something like that? That one was a good song. Heard it on XM tonight on my way home. I couldn't tell you anything else they did, though. Actually they did "My Girl (Gone, Gone, Gone)," and "Watcha Gonna Do When I'm Gone," so take your pick. For my monet, they were always a poor man's Big Star/Badfinger hybrid. As for current Canadian groups, Big Sugar is the one I really get into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted February 4, 2005 Author Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 10:34 PM) As for current Canadian groups, Big Sugar is the one I really get into. I myself would pull for Les Cowboys Frigants: funny, intelligent and dashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 11:41 PM) I myself would pull for Les Cowboys Frigants: funny, intelligent and dashing. Dashing?!? Stop being such a chick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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