Just an Iraq Thread

[mreye]

He seems to be the only one enjoying this thread.

Death is funny, isn't it?

[KipWellsFan]

Death is funny, isn't it?

 

f***ing hilarious.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

Death is funny, isn't it?

 

Everybody who supported the neo-conservative hawks knew that this sort of death was imminent since the military doesn't use sunshine & rainbows to complete the job they were put into doing in Iraq. So when its discussed, I don't see why the hawks get so defensive -- don't be mad at the anti-war people bringing up the cost when you should be angry at the neo-conservative hawks that started an un-Constitutional war that is antithetical to the precepts of the republic in which we live.

 

And his calling Rumsfeld "Dumsfeld" is pretty fitting seeing how this is just one of his many lies:

 

http://www.toehold.com/~kyle/k5/rumsfeld.html

 

Sec. Rumsfeld: Well, you're the--you and a few other critics are the only people I've heard use the phrase `"immediate threat." I didn't. The president didn't. And, uh, it's become kind of folklore that that's--that's what's happened. The president went...

 

Schieffer: You're saying that nobody in the administration said that.

 

Sec. Rumsfeld: I--I can't speak for nobody--everybody in the administration and say nobody said that.

 

Schieffer: Vice president didn't say that? The...

 

Sec. Rumsfeld: Not--if--if you have any citations, I'd like to see 'em.

 

Friedman: We have one here. It says "some have argued that the nu"--this is you speaking--"that the nuclear threat from Iraq is not imminent, that Saddam is at least five to seven years away from having nuclear weapons. I would not be so certain."

 

Sec. Rumsfeld: And--and...

 

Friedman: It was close to imminent.

 

Sec. Rumsfeld: Well, I've--I've tried to be precise, and I've tried to be accurate. I'm s--suppose I've...

 

Friedman: "No terrorist state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world and the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq."

 

Sec. Rumsfeld: Mm-hmm. It--my view of--of the situation was that he--he had--we--we believe, the best intelligence that we had and other countries had and that--that we believed and we still do not know--we will know. David Kay said we're about 85 percent there. I don't know if that's the right percentage. But the Iraqi Survey Group--we've got 1,200 people out there looking. It's a country the size of California. He could have hidden his--enough chemical or biol--enough biological weapons in that hole that--that we found Saddam Hussein in to kill tens of thousands of people. So--so it's not as though we have certainty today.

[mreye]

Everybody who supported the neo-conservative hawks knew that this sort of death was imminent since the military doesn't use sunshine & rainbows to complete the job they were put into doing in Iraq.  So when its discussed, I don't see why the hawks get so defensive -- don't be mad at the anti-war people bringing up the cost when you should be angry at the neo-conservative hawks that started an un-Constitutional war that is antithetical to the precepts of the republic in which we live. 

 

And his calling Rumsfeld "Dumsfeld" is pretty fitting seeing how this is just one of his many lies:

 

http://www.toehold.com/~kyle/k5/rumsfeld.html

 

Following up links about death with a or a is bulls***.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

Following up links about death with a    or a    is bulls***.

 

I think the first was because he was using Fox (or Faux) News as a source so he could not be accused of using a commie, liberal, pinko etc. etc. source.

 

I think the was a fly in the face to the "Iraq is great after the elections" pap that is going around

 

The second was of a "Hey, its just an Iraq thread!" jokin' about the other discussion going on in the thread & I don't think had to do with the information that followed it.

 

It may not be the real meaning but its an alternate interpretation that I'd throw out there while I'm sitting here drinking Mt. Dew and eating bagels (the breakfast of college champions )

[YASNY]

I think this whole thread sucks.

[mreye]

I think the first    was because he was using Fox (or Faux) News as a source so he could not be accused of using a commie, liberal, pinko etc. etc. source.

 

I think the  was a fly in the face to the "Iraq is great after the elections" pap that is going around

 

The second  was of a "Hey, its just an Iraq thread!" jokin' about the other discussion going on in the thread & I don't think had to do with the information that followed it.

 

It may not be the real meaning but its an alternate interpretation that I'd throw out there while I'm sitting here drinking Mt. Dew and eating bagels (the breakfast of college champions  )

And his about enjoying the thread about death?

[KipWellsFan]

And his    about enjoying the thread about death?

 

:banghead :headshake

 

oh and my favorite

 

:fyou

[KipWellsFan]

A Friday in Balad Ruz, Iraq

 

-13 Iraqi police officers and civilians dead in car bombing outside shia mosque

-11 killed in a Baghdad bakery

 

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200...iraq050211.html

 

Last Updated Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:31:15 EST

CBC News

BAGHDAD - At least 13 people were killed and 40 injured when a car bomb exploded outside a Shia mosque near Baghdad, just as Friday services were ending.

 

According to a police official, residents had reported a suspicious-looking pickup truck loaded with vegetables parked in front of the mosque located in Balad Ruz, 70 kilometres northeast of Baghdad. When Iraqi troops approached the truck, it exploded.

 

Iraqi National Guard troops were among the dead and wounded, said Col. Tahseen Mohammed.

 

11 dead in bakery shooting

 

The bombing came hours after 11 people were killed when gunmen fired into a crowd at a Baghdad bakery.

 

The attackers drove up in several cars, blocked the road in front of the bakery and entered.

 

They then fired on the employees of the shop located in the New Baghdad neighbourhood, a predominantly Shia Muslim area. It is not yet known why the bakery was a target.

 

Fox news reported it as 23 deaths and CNN as 21.

 

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-Also being reported that a close aide to top Shiite Cleric was shot 7 times in an attempted assassination

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147079,00.html

Elsewhere, an aide to Iraq's most revered Shiite Muslim cleric was injured in an assassination attempt in Baghdad after receiving threats from militants opposing his support for Iraq's elections, the man's relative said Friday.

 

Sheik Ammar al-Hilali, a representative of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani (search), was shot seven times by gunmen in two cars as he left sunset prayers at a mosque Tuesday, said the relative, Ali al-Lafta.

 

The relative said al-Hilali had received many threats from Sunni Arab extremists.

 

Al-Sistani himself was a strong backer of the vote and even declared voting a religious duty for every man and woman, contributing to a huge turnout among Shiites, who comprise about 60 percent of Iraq's estimated 26 million people.

[mreye]

oh and my favorite

 

:fyou

Very grown up of you. :rolly

[KipWellsFan]

Very grown up of you.  :rolly

 

My point is smilies mean nothing get over it.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

And his    about enjoying the thread about death?

 

I was skimming through it fast while eating breakfast before class. I probably missed that one. Being wired on the Dew can do that after little sleep, haha.

 

And I just found the headbang -- to give an alternate response to what has been asserted about it -I think that more of the "enjoyment" comes out of airing the news of what is going on since a lot of it is not getting sufficent play on TV media since the Michael Jackson trial, Blake Trial, Paris Hilton new perfume, etc.

 

I don't think he is a cold hearted prick. I save that sort of commentary for the members of the War Party (both Dems and Reps) that were incompetent enough to send soldiers into Iraq in the first place even though the US Army War College reports show that there were severe doubts regarding a lot of Hussein's abilities (I'm in a computer lab right now but I can post the link to the article when I get back to my place for any interested parties in reading it)

[KipWellsFan]

This has turned into quite the interesting study of my use or misuse of smilies.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

Here's that link I was talking about... http://www.truthaboutwar.org/1brutal.shtml

 

Pretty interesting stuff.

[KipWellsFan]

Saturday in Iraq

 

-Iraq election results expected on Sunday

-17 civilians and Iraqi police killed in car bombing in Musayyib

-1 Iraqi woman killed in car bombing in Baghdad

-in Mosul insurgents attacked US Forces and 8 insurgents were killed

---1 Mosul woman was killed by mortar round during this battle

-prominent Basra judge assasinated

---CNN reported he was probably killed because he was participating with the new gov't and foxnews reports he was probably killed by Shiites getting revenge on him for participating with Saddam Hussein

-Iraqi man and son found dead on highway south of Baghdad

-6 Iraqi national guardsmen found dead along a highway in Mosul

 

sources

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147204,00.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/02/12/...main/index.html

Edited February 13, 2005 by KipWellsFan

[DBAHO]

Election Results are in;

 

AN alliance of Shiite Islamist groups won the most votes in Iraq's election, but the percentage it received - 47.6 per cent - was lower than many expected, according to the final tally released today.

 

A coalition of the two main Kurdish parties won 25.4 per cent and a bloc led by Interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi got 13.6 per cent.

 

Overall turnout was 8.55 million votes, which was 58 per cent of those registered to vote. The Shiite United Iraqi Alliance won 4.075 million votes, the Kurds won 2.175 million and Mr Allawi's list won 1.168 million, according to the tally released by the Electoral Commission.

[TheBigHurt35]

Saturday in Iraq

 

-Iraq election results expected on Sunday

-17 civilians and Iraqi police killed in car bombing in Musayyib

-1 Iraqi woman killed in car bombing in Baghdad

-in Mosul insurgents attacked US Forces and 8 insurgents were killed

---1 Mosul woman was killed by mortar round during this battle

-prominent Basra judge assasinated

---CNN reported he was probably killed because he was participating with the new gov't and foxnews reports he was probably killed by Shiites getting revenge on him for participating with Saddam Hussein 

-Iraqi man and son found dead on highway south of Baghdad

-6 Iraqi national guardsmen found dead along a highway in Mosul

 

sources

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147204,00.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/02/12/...main/index.html

 

It's too bad that we didn't have Internet message boards back in the late 18th Centruy. I can't imagine the extent of public outrage over the daily casualties in the American and French Revolutions.

 

Despite what some of the media outlets might want you to believe, revolutions do not occur overnight and always involve significant bloodshed. I don't see why these numbers are such a shock to some.

Edited February 13, 2005 by TheBigHurt35

[KipWellsFan]

Sunday in Iraq

 

-3 U.S. soldiers killed when their vehicle rolled into a canal near Balad

-2 Iraqi army officers and 1 Iraqi soldier in Baghdad

-Insurgents attacked a US convoy in Mosul leaving 4 dead, no word on who the 4 were

-Rocket fired at governor's building in Mosul killed 1 man and 1 woman

-2 Iraqi national guards killed trying to defuse a bomb in Mosul

-update: there are now reported 9 insurgents dead after a battle with US forces yesterday, a battle in which the US took no fatalities

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147461,00.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/02/13/...main/index.html

 

 

updating...

 

-17 or 18 killed in Musayyib, 6 Iraqi security guards among them

------sorry this was from yesterday

Edited February 14, 2005 by KipWellsFan

[KipWellsFan]

Monday in Iraq

 

-Oil pipeline blew up near Kirkuk belonging to North Oil Co.

-3 Iraqi national guard troops killed by roadside bomb in Baqouba

-Swedish citizen kidnapped

The kidnappers, who call themselves "The Martyr al-Isawy Brigades," also want Sweden's King Carl XVI Gustaf to take part in negotiations for the freedom of Minas Ibrahim al-Yousifi, the purported leader of the Christian Democratic Party in Iraq, his family told Radio Joenkoeping over the weekend.

 

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Sunday Updates

 

-2 high-ranking policemen killed in drive by shooting

-Iraqi translator for Italian army and son shot to death in Nasiriyah

The Iraqi militant group Ansar al-Sunnah Army (search) claimed in an Internet statement Sunday it had kidnapped an Iraqi Christian translator who worked at a U.S. military base.

 

The group said the man is from Baghdad and works for Titan, a U.S. company in "the biggest U.S. military base" in western Baghdad, which it called the "lion base." Titan is responsible for hiring most translators working for the U.S. military. The claim, posted on a Web site known as a clearing house for militant statements, could not be immediately verified.

-Al-Qaeda has claimed responsibility for most of the other attacks Sunday

 

source

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147507,00.html

 

cbc.ca and cnn.com had nothing on Iraqi violence today

 

updating...

 

-1 US soldier killed near Samarra north of Baghdad on Sunday

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A0C...6EBC0190EC7.htm

 

US soldier killed

 

Separately, one US soldier was killed and another was wounded in an attack on a military base in Iraq, the US army said on Monday.

 

The attack occurred on Sunday at a base near Samarra, 100km north of Baghdad, an army statement said.

 

The death was a result of indirect fire, probably a mortar round, it added.

 

Fighters frequently fire mortars at US bases, but generally cause little damage.

Edited February 14, 2005 by KipWellsFan

[KipWellsFan]

Thursday in Iraq

 

-1 US soldier killed by car bomb in Mosul

-2 men killed by Iraqi police with suspected ties to Al-Qaeda and 5 others were arrested

-Swedish citizen who was kidnapped on Monday now appears in a video with a gun to his head pleading to his gov't and the pope

 

Wednesday updates

 

-2 reporters from an Indonesian television station kidnapped

 

 

sources:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147881,00.html

 

there is probably more than that but I'd have to dig through archives

 

Today's update to come later

[KipWellsFan]

Friday in Iraq

 

-20 minimum killed in 4 bombings targeting shia worshippers in Baghdad (cnn.com)

--cbc.ca reports a minimum of 27 dead

--foxnews.com reports a minimum of 28 dead

--al-jazeera.net reports a minimum of 36 dead

-2 Iraqi police officers found dead in Karbala, they had been kidnapped and are sons of the Najaf police chief

-1 US soldiers killed by roadside bomb in Southern Iraq

-3 Iraqi civilians including 1 child killed in an attack in al-Shuala

-1 Iraqi woman died during clashes between US forces and insurgents

-2 insurgents killed while attempting to set up roadside bomb in Tikrit, 1 also arrested

 

Wednesday Updates

 

-1 US soldier killed by car bombing in Mosul

 

sources:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,148010,00.html

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200...hdad050218.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/02/18/...main/index.html

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CD0...183056DAE39.htm

[mreye]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention (while others just seem to have forgot),

 

WE GAVE THEM THE WEAPONS!! Doh!

And, so we should just turn away and not hold them to any kind of human rights standards? :rolly

[YASNY]

This thread totally sucks. Just saying.

[southsider2k5]

This thread totally sucks.  Just saying.

 

Or to quote a famous coffee table licker

 

"shut up, that's why!"

[KipWellsFan]

This thread totally sucks.  Just saying.

 

That's a shame.