RedPinStripes Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 This is the wrong time to have this guy out there. He hasnt had 1 clean outing. Now he just blew the lead. hey flash! :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPinStripes Posted April 8, 2003 Author Share Posted April 8, 2003 At least Jerry pulled him after that. Looks like Flash didnt want to give up the ball so Manuel took it. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 not a big flash fan either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Flash looked fine to me. The double was on a pitch way up and in and Omar is just killing the Sox right now. He's crushing the ball. That wasn't a bad pitch either. He looked real good against the other batters as well. I chalk this one up to tough luck. But its a tie game, marte is coming in the heart of the order is due up for the Sox. Were gonna win this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Jerry Manuel should have taken him out before Omar. Then he should have put in Marte. Manuel sucks. Just fire him now, he has no clue what hes doing. And our bullpen sucks too with the exception of Koch and Marte. Gordon and White have both stunk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Flash looked fine to me. The double was on a pitch way up and in and Omar is just killing the Sox right now. He's crushing the ball. That wasn't a bad pitch either. He looked real good against the other batters as well. I chalk this one up to tough luck. But its a tie game, marte is coming in the heart of the order is due up for the Sox. Were gonna win this one Somebody peg Omar right in the thigh. Thatll slow him down for sure. A Koch heater right in the butt. Bang! Hot streak over... :headbang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Well, Manuel had a nice call with a sac bunt by Rowand earlier in the game. I think he's doing the right thing so far today, other then I would of pinch hit Graffy for Manos last inning when they brought in the lefty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPinStripes Posted April 8, 2003 Author Share Posted April 8, 2003 Flash looked fine? what game are you watching? i want to tune into that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 His curve and fastball were sharp and the two hits they had wren't on hangers. There is nothing you can do about that other then say damn and go onto the next batter. If he were hanging the pitches or throwing them down the tube or falling behind the hitters, I'd say it was crappy pitching. But he looked sharp out there. He was throwing strikes and his pitches had good bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPinStripes Posted April 8, 2003 Author Share Posted April 8, 2003 he's not fooling teh batters though. Gary Glover has wicked movement, but when he cant hit the corners he looks like a AA pitcher. Nothing is good about a leadoff double and a run in 2/3 of an inning. when you had the lead. It's not the first time this year he blew the lead either. I personally think he's washed up and if he points to the sky after K-ing someone when he just gave up the lead or the Sox are losing, i might have to hold back from shooting him. It's classless and stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 I'm not gonna make any rulings on Flash yet, he's not looked sharp but not altogether horrible either. He did get that big strikeout with 1 out on Matt Lawton instead of giving up a pussy sac fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPinStripes Posted April 8, 2003 Author Share Posted April 8, 2003 I'm not gonna make any rulings on Flash yet, he's not looked sharp but not altogether horrible either. He did get that big strikeout with 1 out on Matt Lawton instead of giving up a pussy sac fly. it's the "ex cub factor" . How many Ex-cubs have we had actually helped us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Jerry Manuel should have taken him out before Omar. Then he should have put in Marte. Manuel sucks. Just fire him now, he has no clue what hes doing. And our bullpen sucks too with the exception of Koch and Marte. Gordon and White have both stunk... We're still winning, in SPITE of Manuel's moronics. Let's pull this one out White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 I'm not gonna make any rulings on Flash yet, he's not looked sharp but not altogether horrible either. He did get that big strikeout with 1 out on Matt Lawton instead of giving up a pussy sac fly. it's the "ex cub factor" . How many Ex-cubs have we had actually helped us? Jon Garland you moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 I like Gordon. Something about a 96 MPH fastball and a filthy curve attract me. If I was Manuel, I would have walked Vizquel, THEN borught in Marte for Lawton. Lefty lefty matchup makes more sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPinStripes Posted April 8, 2003 Author Share Posted April 8, 2003 I'm not gonna make any rulings on Flash yet, he's not looked sharp but not altogether horrible either. He did get that big strikeout with 1 out on Matt Lawton instead of giving up a pussy sac fly. it's the "ex cub factor" . How many Ex-cubs have we had actually helped us? Jon Garland you moron. He never played a MLB game with them as far as i know dickhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Garland never played for Cubs ( minors only ) Flash pitches better the warmer it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 it's the "ex cub factor" . How many Ex-cubs have we had actually helped us? G Bell gave us a good enough season - Earl Averill, Jr. caught well (didn;t hit well enough) that would be it, I think I always have tredidation over the exCub factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 I will disagree, Flash hasnt played that amazing yet, but I say by midseason he will give you shut out innings 6 out of 7 appearances. Hell probably finish the season with an era around the 3 range and will be a big part of many White Sox victorys. The only negative Ive heard about Gordon is his health. He was an above average closer for most of his career, and does have above average stuff, with a curve that can be unhittable. I just think it is to early to start on peoples cases, quite frankly Id much rather have Flash in there then White, Osuna, or Biddle for one inning. I hope that Im right. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 He was an above average closer for most of his career Yeah, especially when he saved 45 out of 46 games at Fenway Park one year. and does have above average stuff, with a curve that can be unhittable You can hardly call 93-96 mph fastball "average" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 You dont need to convince me on Flash's goodness, I was just understating so that if people decided to quote me, they could not say that I was overstating my claims. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wsc425 Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 To Murcie: Nice pic, lol... To the rest: Flash is gonna need to make adjustments, but I think he can pull it together... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 We seem to keep having a solid guy to give us middle relief so far this year. I wonder who it is going to be to step up and be able to pitch the 6th and 7th innings? I personally wish they would give Glover the shot at it. In the short time he was the middle man last year he was lights out. Give GG another shot until Flash or White prove that they can do the job still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Some of you folks are amazing.... Let's see what Flash and some of these others that you are crucifying do over a period of a few weeks. It is way to soon to panic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 We seem to keep having a solid guy to give us middle relief so far this year. I wonder who it is going to be to step up and be able to pitch the 6th and 7th innings? I personally wish they would give Glover the shot at it. In the short time he was the middle man last year he was lights out. Give GG another shot until Flash or White prove that they can do the job still. Glover is the only guy in the bullpen that can go more than an inning....and he can go 3 or 4 at a time if necessary. Stewart does fall into the category now though. We have 2 long relievers....and there is nothing wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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