Mr. Showtime Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 GM feels Sox did their best to accomodate Ordonez Much more in the article..... "I really am at a loss for words," said Williams from his home in Arizona. "What do you say when you've tried at every turn to accommodate someone, be positive and, in many cases, cover them? "I'm at peace with how we have treated Magglio," added Williams, pausing briefly to find the right words before continuing with a very pointed close. "He's a Tiger now, so I don't care what he has to say." EDIT: Chairman speaks on it... When the White Sox signed Jermaine Dye prior to the Winter Meetings in Anaheim, the Ordonez era all but officially had come to a close. "I wish Magglio well," said White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf during a weekend conversation with MLB.com. "We offered him $60 million -- and all cash -- before he got hurt, and after he was hurt, we offered him the same and he turned it down. "We had to go on our way, and once he became a free agent, they stopped giving us information. I hope he's OK. I hope he can play. I also hope he doesn't hurt us." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthPaw Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 "He's a Tiger now, so I don't care what he has to say." Thats the only way you can look at it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 I just don't remember anywhere KW saying that Maggs couldn't play. I don't know what right Maggs has to blame KW for the baseball world finding out about his injury. It was obvious to anyone with a pulse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 "I wish Magglio well," said White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf during a weekend conversation with MLB.com. "We offered him $60 million -- and all cash -- before he got hurt, and after he was hurt, we offered him the same and he turned it down." Maybe I missed something during the process, but I don't remember us offering the same $60 million contract after he got hurt. Did everybody else know this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Wow. The 60 million was still on the table during the injury. Good thing for Maggs Mike Ilitch is a moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Whether you like Kenny or JR the sox front office handled this whole ordeal with class while Magglio did the exact opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 10:12 PM) Maybe I missed something during the process, but I don't remember us offering the same $60 million contract after he got hurt. Did everybody else know this? Without any information on his injury That's about the stupidist thing I could think of doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 04:18 AM) Without any information on his injury That's about the stupidist thing I could think of doing. Well, thank god Maggs wanted more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 10:18 PM) Without any information on his injury That's about the stupidist thing I could think of doing. I assume the deal was still on the table when Magglio came back from the injury and probably got taken off the table after he was officially gone for the season but I could be wrong about that, just an assumption by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Of course this article won't get much play in the media. They only listen to what they want to hear, but it's nice to see KW and JR are above all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaSoxFan Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Little o-t, but what will we do with O-E-O sound bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 QUOTE(silver and black @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 10:27 PM) Little o-t, but what will we do with O-E-O sound bit? Trash it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuehrleTheAce Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 IMO Maggs got brainwashed by Bora$$. Bora$$ is now his patron Devil; Maggs will listen to and repeat whatever he tells him. For all the years of supporting Maggs while he was a Soutthsider, I say stick it up your agent's ass coated in lemonjuice, you ungrateful, money-grubbing, brainwashed, malcontent. We don't need you, we don't want you, but the best thing of all? We're gonna own the Tigers this year, mark my words! (Disclaimer: The Sox BETTER own the Tigers this year or I'll have a healthy plate of crow to eat!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 10:12 PM) Maybe I missed something during the process, but I don't remember us offering the same $60 million contract after he got hurt. Did everybody else know this? Yes there was a period of time where Maggs knee was not thought to be anything serious... I believe the offer was on the table until he went back on the DL after that 10 game stretch that he returned to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Like I said on another thread, Kenny did nothing wrong. Borass and Magg$ wanted to play "cloak and dagger" and keep his medical records a secret, so what was Kenny supposed to do? He has a LIMITED BUDGET to work with, and it would be idiotic, stupid, and irresponsible to spend 1/5 of that on a player who is damaged goods, and a player that might not even be able to perform more than half the season. You just can't roll the dice like that on a player coming off a SERIOUS injury. Maggs had two MAJOR medical procedures on his knee, and he has a degenerative condition of edema in that knee. It would have been a HUGE risk - and with a limited payroll, it's not a risk worth taking. If Magg$ wants to b****, so be it. If anything, we should be b****ing about how many times he killed an inning with a GIDP - when he had a GOOD set of knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 QUOTE(silver and black @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 10:27 PM) Little o-t, but what will we do with O-E-O sound bit? Play it when he walks back to the dugout after a K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 QUOTE(silver and black @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 10:27 PM) Little o-t, but what will we do with O-E-O sound bit? We can slightly modify it and give it to Detroit ..... Oh! We owe .... Magglio ... 105 million dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 It shouldn't surprise Kenny at all... While they have done their best to wish Maggs well, try to resign him, and not make his info public, Borass and Maggs have been on a one sided slander mission ever since last winter to try to win pity for this chump. Finally the Sox organization gets it right in handling a parting with some respect, and Maggs can't even return the favor. Like I said before, its a sad day when Sammy Sosa can handle leaving Chicago with more class than Magglio Ordonez can :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 KW and JR offered him $60 million after his first operation when he was about to return to the lineup. Maggs turned it down and stated "Lets just hold all talks until the offseason." After Maggs returned- he told KW to hold all contract talks until after the season is over. About a week or two into his return is when he was diagnosed with that bone marrow adema disaster. So thank you Maggs for being greedy. You would have tied us down financially for 5 seasons, but you and Borass's greedyness is a big reason we now have: Dye, Iguchi, Hernandez, Garcia, Pierzynski, and Hermanson. Only the Tigers would have offered a player in which they are clueless about his health that ridiculous of a contract. But then again, the Tigers are known for their insane player contracts *cough, *cough Higgenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Funny thing. In my opinion, if the Tigers had Dye, Iguchi, Hernandez, Garcia, Pierzynski, and Hermanson, they'd be looking pretty damn tough right now. Even AJ fits. He could spell IRod behind the plate and/or act as a DH. He'd also allow IRod to DH more often and keep him fresh all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 That makes even less sense then Maggs quote. We'll we ever get the truth? If KW is saying the Sox were still prepared to offer the 58/5 cash deal after the bone edema condition was discovered then why didn't the Sox at least offer arbitration? Think about that. KW is saying the Sox were willing to risk 58/5 on Maggs but not one year of arbitration? Does that make sense to you? If he had offered arbitration the Sox at least would be getting a couple of picks from Det. High value picks because Det has drafted high of late. I'm tending to believe Maggs here because it just makes no sense for the Sox not to offer arbitration based on what KW is saying here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 I don't see the full truth ever coming out. Both sides will give their side of the story. The more stories I read about Maggs the less I like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 12:31 PM) That makes even less sense then Maggs quote. We'll we ever get the truth? If KW is saying the Sox were still prepared to offer the 58/5 cash deal after the bone edema condition was discovered then why didn't the Sox at least offer arbitration? Think about that. KW is saying the Sox were willing to risk 58/5 on Maggs but not one year of arbitration? Does that make sense to you? If he had offered arbitration the Sox at least would be getting a couple of picks from Det. High value picks because Det has drafted high of late. I'm tending to believe Maggs here because it just makes no sense for the Sox not to offer arbitration based on what KW is saying here. Reading that article, I did not see any quotes saying the contract was offered after the edema condition was discovered. It only said (by JR) that is was offered after he got hurt. Ordonez turned it down. Then somewhere along the line, Ordonez' people stopped keeping the Sox informed. I still say the Sox were 100% correct in not offering arbitration. And this point hasn't been made often, if at all. Magglio never would have accepted arbitration unless he believed he was going to have to shut it down for most of the year. If Ordonez expects us to believe that he would have accepted, he's a stupid mofo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 01:26 PM) I don't see the full truth ever coming out. Both sides will give their side of the story. The more stories I read about Maggs the less I like him. I do...the truth will come out when Mags plays about 40 or 50 games this year. The Sox offer was still on the table even when Mags was hurt...that's why the Sox didn't offer arbitration. I'm at the point of....who cares...the Sox moved on and so did Maggliallaboutthequiche. Next chapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 If you paid me $14 million for less than 50 games in a year, I'd be happy to be "buried" like that. On a side note, I'm still waiting for the Trib to print KW's response. Surely they can obtain the feed from Whitesox.com. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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